The Secret Land deal - relatives did not want anyone to find out about?

[grahameb]

Nevill would never have left a loaded rifle where the children might find it.

And yet he kept a loaded shotgun under his bed?

However the shotgun NB usually kept under the bed was not under the bed at the time of the murders (as I am sure NB would have used it if he could - rather than running dowstairs to make a phone call  ) and I believe this shotgun was photographed by EP near the gun cupboard in the office.

NB may have locked it away with the children staying over (if so, a fatal move), or again was it moved by someone else prior to the murders, but would NB not have noticed if his shotgun had been moved esp. with the children saying over?

Fair point.

[Tyler]

How do you know that Neville ran downstairs to use the phone in the kitchen? He may have ran down down the stairs pursuing the killer with his shotgun.A tussle may have ensued in which concluded with Neville being beaten and subsequently killed.Thats how Nevilles gun could have ended up being found downstairs.Didnt Mike say something about a second gun being found in the kitchen?Is that Nevilles gun that is photographed in the downstairs office?There were many weapons at whf.Why did the police photograph only that one  shotgun and the rifle that was found with Sheila?The shotgun must therefore hold some relevance to the crime?

[Jackiepreece]

Wild speculation about Jeremy being evil beyond beleif nobody proved that,  the housekeeper of 20 years testified for Jeremy

Freddie who was close to Sheila testified on behalf of Jeremy, he wouldnt have testified if Sheila did not get on with Jeremy

Wild speculation that Jeremy is gay on one hand the relatives say he is this cocky monster with all these girls around him then they say he is gay

I am finding your posts hilarious because they do not contain anything factual and as I am always trying to get to the truth why wont you tell me what work you have done as a tv producer I know many people
working in the tv industry so we probably no the same people

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic every single time someone comes on here that is anti bamber I live in hope that they will have new evidence to prove JB is guilty  because I would rather find out he is guilty than think of an innocent man in prison for 26 years.  Most of the people on this forum probably think they would be better of dead than live Jeremys life.  Every Friday Saturday and Sunday he is locked in his tiny single cell from 5pm until the next morning.

Since I have been coming on this forum I have seen them all and most of them hide behind dodgy names and some of their behaviour has been absolutely disgusting they would be far more likely be the type of person to carry out a murder than JB for once can you bring something to the table of FACT

I loved a good debate with Hartley and Kaldin and the brilliant mistake and not one of those was pro Bamber

I am sick to death of the same crap

There is not one single excuse that Ann Eaton could use to say why she took that bucket of bloody clothes home.  In fact in my opinion she is up to her neck in it.

Ive studied both familys as much as an outsider can and I know which family I would trust and Jeremy was part of that one

[vidvic]

Have you read Colin Caffell's book, vidvic? He does say that one of his son's let slip to Ralph & June that they'd seen him 'sharing a cigarette' with a friend, which Sheila said her parents were 'po-faced' about. This was shortly before the murders.

Edit: It's on pages 36/37 of 'In Search of the Rainbow's End' published 1994.
The conversation with Sheila was 'only weeks earlier'

Yes, very moving book....Nevill might have been po-faced but hardly likely to make them favour care over living with Colin..

[Jackiepreece]

Vidvic why did your friends take the silencer home why wouldnt they call the police if they were certain Jeremy was the killer.  Taking the silencer home could have ruined the forensic evidence they would have known that  Is this along the same lines as "why didnt JB dial 999, why didn't he rush to the house??"

Vidvic you answer my question I put to you first and I will answer mine is very easy to answer

[Jackiepreece]

Go for it Jackie! This will almost certainly clear his name.....

I am going for it Vidvic plenty more up my sleeve


I dont know if there are policeman on this forum but can people have a look of horror on there face say if they are murdered or does everyone look peaceful like Sheila when they die

or are there any nurses on this forum I am really interested because I dont find Sheilas pictures gruesome she just looks like she is an actress covered in fake blood and just looks so peaceful

I wonder if NGB would know anything about this and this is normally something right up Chocho or Abs street

[grahameb]

I don't think this Mr Vic can add anything to that which we don't already know? Come on Vic tell us something about the family that we don't know. It shouldn't be that difficult seeing you have known them since the beginning?

[grahameb]

Have you read Colin Caffell's book, vidvic? He does say that one of his son's let slip to Ralph & June that they'd seen him 'sharing a cigarette' with a friend, which Sheila said her parents were 'po-faced' about. This was shortly before the murders.

Edit: It's on pages 36/37 of 'In Search of the Rainbow's End' published 1994.
The conversation with Sheila was 'only weeks earlier'

Yes, very moving book....Nevill might have been po-faced but hardly likely to make them favour care over living with Colin..

Well likely or not, Colin himself thought it may have been a clue to Sheila's parents wanting to have the boys fostered.

I think I remember that as well?

[ngb1066]

Go for it Jackie! This will almost certainly clear his name.....

I am going for it Vidvic plenty more up my sleeve


I dont know if there are policeman on this forum but can people have a look of horror on there face say if they are murdered or does everyone look peaceful like Sheila when they die

or are there any nurses on this forum I am really interested because I dont find Sheilas pictures gruesome she just looks like she is an actress covered in fake blood and just looks so peaceful

I wonder if NGB would know anything about this and this is normally something right up Chocho or Abs street

Jackie - I am afraid this is not within my area of expertise.  I have seen quite a few photographs of dead bodies in the course of my legal work but I am not able to draw any general conclusions from them on this point.

 

[lucy70]

Go for it Jackie! This will almost certainly clear his name.....

I am going for it Vidvic plenty more up my sleeve


I dont know if there are policeman on this forum but can people have a look of horror on there face say if they are murdered or does everyone look peaceful like Sheila when they die

or are there any nurses on this forum I am really interested because I dont find Sheilas pictures gruesome she just looks like she is an actress covered in fake blood and just looks so peaceful

I wonder if NGB would know anything about this and this is normally something right up Chocho or Abs street

The majority of people that have seen looked quite peaceful and just as if they were sleeping.

[Tyler]

Vic may I ask? if  as you say,it wasnt all about the money/property or whatever for the relatives,then why did they not compensate Colin for his loss?

[Jackiepreece]

Lucy have you seen lots of dead bodies?
I suppose that just a stupid american documentary then how ridiculous

[Tyler]

Go for it Jackie! This will almost certainly clear his name.....

I am going for it Vidvic plenty more up my sleeve


I dont know if there are policeman on this forum but can people have a look of horror on there face say if they are murdered or does everyone look peaceful like Sheila when they die

or are there any nurses on this forum I am really interested because I dont find Sheilas pictures gruesome she just looks like she is an actress covered in fake blood and just looks so peaceful

I wonder if NGB would know anything about this and this is normally something right up Chocho or Abs street

The majority of people that have seen looked quite peaceful and just as if they were sleeping.

Out of interest Lucy,does this include murder victims?

[vidvic]

Wild speculation about Jeremy being evil beyond beleif nobody proved that,  the housekeeper of 20 years testified for Jeremy --yes they did, he's in prison And the house keeper was privy to all the personal details of JB and his family? The secretary and trusted friend of Nevill testified against him

Freddie who was close to Sheila testified on behalf of Jeremy, he wouldnt have testified if Sheila did not get on with Jeremy Jeremy himself said that they didn't get on

Wild speculation that Jeremy is gay on one hand the relatives say he is this cocky monster with all these girls around him then they say he is gay No relevance WSE

I am finding your posts hilarious because they do not contain anything factual and as I am always trying to get to the truth why wont you tell me what work you have done as a tv producer I know many people
working in the tv industry so we probably no the same people I produce sports shows for Sky, why is this relevant?


Vidvic every single time someone comes on here that is anti bamber I live in hope that they will have new evidence to prove JB is guilty  because I would rather find out he is guilty than think of an innocent man in prison for 26 years.  Most of the people on this forum probably think they would be better of dead than live Jeremys life.  Every Friday Saturday and Sunday he is locked in his tiny single cell from 5pm until the next morning. That's because he murdered his family

Since I have been coming on this forum I have seen them all and most of them hide behind dodgy names and some of their behaviour has been absolutely disgusting they would be far more likely be the type of person to carry out a murder than JB for once can you bring something to the table of FACTI am not hiding, you know my name

I loved a good debate with Hartley and Kaldin and the brilliant mistake and not one of those was pro Bamber

I am sick to death of the same crap because it doesn't fit with your theories?

There is not one single excuse that Ann Eaton could use to say why she took that bucket of bloody clothes home.  In fact in my opinion she is up to her neck in it. Your opinion

Ive studied both familys as much as an outsider can and I know which family I would trust and Jeremy was part of that oneThey are the same family