The Secret Land deal - relatives did not want anyone to find out about?

[Jackiepreece]

Smiffy and Andrea. You seem to be suggesting that I am actually 'John'. I can assure you I am my own Man.

Saying something like "Bet the money helped him get over it" shows a complete lack of understanding for what the family went through and continues to go through. Not that I expect many on this forum to understand or want to understand.

Please remember that none of the family ever wanted any of this to happen. Also remember that in the first few hours after those dreadful events they rallied round JB and tried to support him. JB knows this to be true.

It was only after things were overheard being told to the police that doubts started to emerge and the events of that night were questioned.I have read many times on here about greedy relatives. I ask you. Do you really believe that the Nevill and June estate would have changed any of the families lives?! That they needed to frame Jeremy for the money? Ridiculous.




Vicvid please remind me how many hours did the family rally around JB

[Jackiepreece]

Smiffy and Andrea. You seem to be suggesting that I am actually 'John'. I can assure you I am my own Man.

Saying something like "Bet the money helped him get over it" shows a complete lack of understanding for what the family went through and continues to go through. Not that I expect many on this forum to understand or want to understand.

Please remember that none of the family ever wanted any of this to happen. Also remember that in the first few hours after those dreadful events they rallied round JB and tried to support him. JB knows this to be true.

It was only after things were overheard being told to the police that doubts started to emerge and the events of that night were questioned.I have read many times on here about greedy relatives. I ask you. Do you really believe that the Nevill and June estate would have changed any of the families lives?! That they needed to frame Jeremy for the money? Ridiculous.

[Jackiepreece]

Sorry vicvid I had to repost that again in navy so you know exactly what you said

[andrea]

Jackie, even with your rose tinted specs on, surely you could understand the reluctance of the family to formally identify the bodies. Maybe you need to re read the list of injuries to them all and try and imagine what it would be like to see loved ones in that condition. Isn't it only natural that you would want to remember them alive and well? If this is your marker for greed then does it not equally apply to JB.?
Anyway, factually, you are incorrect. At least one family member offered to go.

Why didn't they go? After all JM wasn't family. Victims of murder or accident are usually ideally identified by relatives if at all possible. Was Julie Mugford immune to trauma?

julie was immune  trauma for over a month, until she was dumped.

[Jackiepreece]

+1 Andrea

[Roch]

No disrespect meant to any fellow posters who have been challenging vidvic... but... to be fair to vidvic, from what I've seen of his/her posts, they do try to argue their views in a reasonable manner.  It is an interesting and welcome slant on the forum, in my view.  It does seem to be a bit of a turkey shoot on here re the relatives at times.  Personally, I've never gone in for that, though I do mull over posts which allege a suspected collusion with certain police officers.

[Alias]

No disrespect meant to any fellow posters who have been challenging vidvic... but... to be fair to vidvic, from what I've seen of his/her posts, they do try to argue their views in a reasonable manner.  It is an interesting and welcome slant on the forum, in my view.  It does seem to be a bit of a turkey shoot on here re the relatives at times.  Personally, I've never gone in for that, though I do mull over posts which allege a suspected collusion with certain police officers.

I couldn´t agree more! +1

[Tyler]

Vidvic,you posted earlier that PE was devastated by the death of Neville Bamber.That may be so,but it didnt stop him from pilfering from the Bamber company in the wake of those tragic deaths did it?
You may think that it is unfair for JBs relatives to be villified (as you put it).Well I happen to think that it is unfair that Jeremys family turned on him within hours of his whole family being wiped out.I think that it is unfair that the relatives meddled into a police investigation that according to EP was concluded.But more unfair than anything is the fact that Jeremy did not even receive a fair court trial.If he had of Vidvic and was still found guilty,then I would be one of the first to sympathize with you.But as it stands,an innocent man may be sitting in prison and that,to me,is unfair!

[Tyler]

RochfordShields,I agree.Vidvic is very polite and his/her views are welcome.I wouldnt like to think that I am challenging Vidvic,just simply debating.Obviously we all have different views and opinions regarding the case and so obviously we are going to disagree at times.No harm is meant by it.

[Jackiepreece]

Tyler plus one we just want to get to the truth and I for one would like it if the relatives would come on here

[bob]

No disrespect meant to any fellow posters who have been challenging vidvic... but... to be fair to vidvic, from what I've seen of his/her posts, they do try to argue their views in a reasonable manner.  It is an interesting and welcome slant on the forum, in my view.  It does seem to be a bit of a turkey shoot on here re the relatives at times.  Personally, I've never gone in for that, though I do mull over posts which allege a suspected collusion with certain police officers.

+1 Roch

[chochokeira]

"It probably then dawned on her that JB was now the main shareholder in the caravan park and also very possibly owned the Eatons home?"

Neither of these two statements is true.

Hi Video Victor,

You accuse Jackie of making untrue statements in respect of Jeremy's shareholding. Yet you offer no sources, no references, no proof whatsoever in support of your claim.

With respect, can I ask you: what are your sources, where is your proof? Because without these, as you would presumably agree, your claims boil down to wild speculation.

The problem is that your only source appears to be yourself:
Vic's views are true because Vic says so.

Well, we could all attempt to pull the wool over everyone's eyes in that way.

Your posts implicitly suggest that you have insider knowledge. However, if you do have such knowledge, Vic, the insider you've been interviewing has a very one sided view of this case.

Have you tried speaking to the other side to get a more balanced view of the case or are you quite happy with your current one dimensional grasp of it?

[Tyler]

yes,I agree Keira.With regard to the caravan park shares,Scott Lomax revealed that June Bamber,Jeremy Bamber,Pamela Boutflour and Ann Eaton all owned a quarter share each.It is no secret that Scott,like Mike,has had access to thousand of documents regarding the case.So surely,upon the deaths of the Bamber family with Jeremy being the main beneficiary of the estate,he would inherit his mothers share? Now Im not that great at maths,but would that not equate to Jeremy owning half of the caravan buisness,with Pamela and Ann still owning a quarter each?If so,how would it not be true that Jeremy would be the main shareholder?

[chochokeira]

yes,I agree Keira.With regard to the caravan park shares,Scott Lomax revealed that June Bamber,Jeremy Bamber,Pamela Boutflour and Ann Eaton all owned a quarter share each.It is no secret that Scott,like Mike,has had access to thousand of documents regarding the case.So surely,upon the deaths of the Bamber family with Jeremy being the main beneficiary of the estate,he would inherit his mothers share? Now Im not that great at maths,but would that not equate to Jeremy owning half of the caravan buisness,with Pamela and Ann still owning a quarter each?If so,how would it not be true that Jeremy would be the main shareholder?

I believe you're right, Tyler. Whoever Vic Video has been interviewing (and filming?) appears to have given him a rather distorted view of this case.

[Tyler]

It doesnt really matter to me who owned what.Its just that Id always believed that they were the facts.Vidvic says it is not true,so maybe he could explain what the facts actually are?