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Offline lookout

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #690 on: September 30, 2016, 01:24:PM »
I would have said that the letters were illegible,but not the notes that contain letters and numbers,which are legible. It's what they denote,rather than their illegibility ?
Illegible is when you can't make out the words in a letter,such as I was referring to.
We can all make out the letters and numbers as they're plain enough to see ( legible ) but what we don't know are their origins or what they represent. These aren't the ones which are being investigated.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #691 on: September 30, 2016, 02:34:PM »
I would have said that the letters were illegible,but not the notes that contain letters and numbers,which are legible. It's what they denote,rather than their illegibility ?
Illegible is when you can't make out the words in a letter,such as I was referring to.
We can all make out the letters and numbers as they're plain enough to see ( legible ) but what we don't know are their origins or what they represent. These aren't the ones which are being investigated.

I posted the dictionary explanation for you but here it is again

illegible

adjective
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unable to be read or deciphered

You can't DECIPHER meaning from the note and as such it is ILLEGIBLE. You can argue all you like but the note with letters and numbers was found on the bedside table and given a crime reference number (picture already posted). Not the notes that people on this forum have been able to translate (as have the CP  - although shoving in words that were never written for good measure), as such they can't be illegible.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #692 on: September 30, 2016, 07:03:PM »
If it's there they have the power to get it, doesn't matter if EP comply, they have special legal powers to get any information they need, that's why I said I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudy, the government set up the CCRC to deal fairly with MOJ, The CCRC is independent of everyone.

The CCRC r underfundand stressed beyond belief with the weight of applications. They are also a government quango.

They asked for the information was told it couldn't be located. End of that's wrong by both ep and the CCRC.

wet her you believe him innocent or guilty justice I cant see why you wouldn't want the information to be disclosed.

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« Reply #693 on: September 30, 2016, 07:27:PM »
The CCRC r underfundand stressed beyond belief with the weight of applications. They are also a government quango.

They asked for the information was told it couldn't be located. End of that's wrong by both ep and the CCRC.

wet her you believe him innocent or guilty justice I cant see why you wouldn't want the information to be disclosed.
I don't think I said I wouldn't want the information disclosed, I merely pointed out I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudi, the CCRC advertise that they have all these powers to get whatever information they require, can you tell me what Jeremy asked for that couldn't be located?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #694 on: September 30, 2016, 07:50:PM »
I don't think I said I wouldn't want the information disclosed, I merely pointed out I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudi, the CCRC advertise that they have all these powers to get whatever information they require, can you tell me what Jeremy asked for that couldn't be located?

Yes, I would like to know that too.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #695 on: September 30, 2016, 08:04:PM »
Yes, I would like to know that too.
I think it's the hand written logs of the calls to the police Caroline?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #696 on: October 01, 2016, 08:24:AM »
The CCRC r underfundand stressed beyond belief with the weight of applications. They are also a government quango.

They asked for the information was told it couldn't be located. End of that's wrong by both ep and the CCRC.

wet her you believe him innocent or guilty justice I cant see why you wouldn't want the information to be disclosed.
[/quoteAusterity has hit everyone not just the CCRC, every government department, every Council will tell you they are underfunded this is the world we live in.  Having said that there are not many Countries would let someone have appeal after appeal after appeal, maybe if they stopped or limited the appeals the CCRC would not be so weighted down with applications?
Greater understanding or resources in the justice system about miscarriage's of justice in the first place might help prevent the falsely accused in the first place, this is the general feeling within Government.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #697 on: October 01, 2016, 08:58:AM »
I think it's the hand written logs of the calls to the police Caroline?

I thought he had all of that. Otherwise why claim since 2010 that Neville called the same police station Bamber called. Which was the fifth furthest away police station ?

The logs are in one of the campaigns Youtube videos.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #699 on: October 01, 2016, 09:07:AM »
I thought he had all of that. Otherwise why claim since 2010 that Neville called the same police station Bamber called. Which was the fifth furthest away police station ?

The logs are in one of the campaigns Youtube videos.
I don't know if it is these Adam, maybe Notsure could tell us?

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« Reply #700 on: October 01, 2016, 10:13:AM »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #701 on: October 01, 2016, 11:45:PM »
I thought he had all of that. Otherwise why claim since 2010 that Neville called the same police station Bamber called. Which was the fifth furthest away police station ?

The logs are in one of the campaigns Youtube videos.

They want the originals not just copies . I guess so they can be checked for any amendments that might not be obvious on copies .

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #702 on: October 02, 2016, 09:06:AM »
They want the originals not just copies . I guess so they can be checked for any amendments that might not be obvious on copies .

Oh yes. They may have amended the logs to hide that Neville had also called the fifth furthest away police station.

The logs on Youtube look original to me. Both handwritten.  There are enough differences for the CT to jump on.
 
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #703 on: October 02, 2016, 10:33:AM »
Oh yes. They may have amended the logs to hide that Neville had also called the fifth furthest away police station.

The logs on Youtube look original to me. Both handwritten.  There are enough differences for the CT to jump on.




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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #704 on: October 02, 2016, 06:28:PM »
I don't think I said I wouldn't want the information disclosed, I merely pointed out I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudi, the CCRC advertise that they have all these powers to get whatever information they require, can you tell me what Jeremy asked for that couldn't be located?

read the letter on the website justice it explains all in that.