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Offline Romeo

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #330 on: September 11, 2016, 10:08:PM »
I can make out the "he is no good bit" but how do you know it's referring to Colin? As far as the Sun newspaper and Police mentioned in the same sentence it's hardly likely to be a suicide note. I wonder if Jeremy threatened his sister with exposure of the photographs whilst she was still alive?

I am certain in my own mind these are not suicide notes. 

It does say EX HUSBAND Steve, and also speaks of her 'Sons'. I also mentioned in an earlier post saying ....could JB have threatened to sell the photos of Sheila when she was alive... I'm now also wondering if Sheila's ex (Colin) found out about the photo's and was going to use them against her in his bid for total custody of the twins.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #331 on: September 11, 2016, 10:09:PM »
I'd rather rely on Trudi and Co. than any guilters !
I think Poppy Miller is far more effective as she seems to do research rather than just be a friendly ear for Jeremy when he telephones from prison.

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« Reply #332 on: September 11, 2016, 10:31:PM »
I think Poppy Miller is far more effective as she seems to do research rather than just be a friendly ear for Jeremy when he telephones from prison.



I like Poppy,she's a clever woman. You're right,she certainly has done a lot of research and is independent of the CT team.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #333 on: September 11, 2016, 10:41:PM »
Give who a chance?

 Bamber? I believe him to be a child killer. Why would I give him a chance? I've listened to what he has to say and I do not believe it. That's enough chance for a convicted child killer.

The CT? I have listened to what they have to say, seen their devious behaviour and the ways they are willing to claim falseties for a child killer.

Why should I give chances to people like that??! No thanks.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #334 on: September 11, 2016, 11:57:PM »
I don't think people like Trudi deserve anymore chances after their bake offs and graveside videos plus all of the erroneous information on their website to hook people into the incorrect narrative that they want people to believe. Shame on them.

I agree Mat 100%!
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #335 on: September 12, 2016, 08:52:AM »
Whether or not Trudi's idea's of the bake-off and the graveside were the best ways of channeling publicity,it worked. It got people talking and thinking,and though I wasn't particularly impressed with the bake-off I understood the concept behind it,where others didn't.
To those who continued to condemn the issues,it's become a constant reminder that if all else fails they've still got these two issues in which to " have a go " about, regardless of the heading in question. In other words, it's become like another excuse to try and justify JB's guilt where there may just be a hint that there's a chance of his freedom---------------as in this particular thread regarding possible suicide notes.

" We'll just throw in the bake-off and graveside card ",mentality. I call it diversity.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #336 on: September 12, 2016, 09:05:AM »
Whether or not Trudi's idea's of the bake-off and the graveside were the best ways of channeling publicity,it worked. It got people talking and thinking,and though I wasn't particularly impressed with the bake-off I understood the concept behind it,where others didn't.
To those who continued to condemn the issues,it's become a constant reminder that if all else fails they've still got these two issues in which to " have a go " about, regardless of the heading in question. In other words, it's become like another excuse to try and justify JB's guilt where there may just be a hint that there's a chance of his freedom---------------as in this particular thread regarding possible suicide notes.

" We'll just throw in the bake-off and graveside card ",mentality. I call it diversity.

They need to convince celebrities of JBs innocence, and those celebrities need to be strong minded and vocal about it.

If it was not for Jonny Depp and Metallica. The West Memphis Three would still be in prison today.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #337 on: September 12, 2016, 09:38:AM »
They need to convince celebrities of JBs innocence, and those celebrities need to be strong minded and vocal about it.

If it was not for Jonny Depp and Metallica. The West Memphis Three would still be in prison today.




Yes I agree, it needs a strong voice and someone not afraid to speak out,like actor Brian Blessed or Terry Waite who'd had experience of being held hostage against his will.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #338 on: September 12, 2016, 11:57:AM »
Whether or not Trudi's idea's of the bake-off and the graveside were the best ways of channeling publicity,it worked. It got people talking and thinking,and though I wasn't particularly impressed with the bake-off I understood the concept behind it,where others didn't.
To those who continued to condemn the issues,it's become a constant reminder that if all else fails they've still got these two issues in which to " have a go " about, regardless of the heading in question. In other words, it's become like another excuse to try and justify JB's guilt where there may just be a hint that there's a chance of his freedom---------------as in this particular thread regarding possible suicide notes.

" We'll just throw in the bake-off and graveside card ",mentality. I call it diversity.

I haven't mentioned the Bake Off once and have stuck to the topic. You can't claim every pience of paper found at the scene are suicide notes with any degree of credibility. The note in the bible was supposed to be a suicide note, turns out it was a note written by June. The letters and numbers note found on the bedside cabinet was supposed to be a suicide note, police labled it as such and then described it as 'Illegible'. The 'illegible' note was the one given the ref DRH/42. People can pretend that these notes were found at the scene but there is no evidence of that and as Jan has said, she asked Jeremy about them and he said he didn't believe they were found at the scene or that they were written by Sheila. The CT have done their own translation but suggesting a particular word say's 'blood' when it clearly say's 'dirt' doesn't win them any favours but I guess that's why they haven't posted the notes on the OS.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #339 on: September 12, 2016, 12:18:PM »
I haven't mentioned the Bake Off once and have stuck to the topic. You can't claim every pience of paper found at the scene are suicide notes with any degree of credibility. The note in the bible was supposed to be a suicide note, turns out it was a note written by June. The letters and numbers note found on the bedside cabinet was supposed to be a suicide note, police labled it as such and then described it as 'Illegible'. The 'illegible' note was the one given the ref DRH/42. People can pretend that these notes were found at the scene but there is no evidence of that and as Jan has said, she asked Jeremy about them and he said he didn't believe they were found at the scene or that they were written by Sheila. The CT have done their own translation but suggesting a particular word say's 'blood' when it clearly say's 'dirt' doesn't win them any favours but I guess that's why they haven't posted the notes on the OS.





 I didn't say that you personally had mentioned the bake-off,but you certainly agreed with that which Mat wrote,as he'd mentioned it.

However,because there appears to be more notes than we've seen,it's very possible that " blood " would have been mentioned because anyone with half an eye would see the difference in the two written words of " blood " and " dirt ".

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #340 on: September 12, 2016, 12:24:PM »
I haven't mentioned the Bake Off once and have stuck to the topic. You can't claim every pience of paper found at the scene are suicide notes with any degree of credibility. The note in the bible was supposed to be a suicide note, turns out it was a note written by June. The letters and numbers note found on the bedside cabinet was supposed to be a suicide note, police labled it as such and then described it as 'Illegible'. The 'illegible' note was the one given the ref DRH/42. People can pretend that these notes were found at the scene but there is no evidence of that and as Jan has said, she asked Jeremy about them and he said he didn't believe they were found at the scene or that they were written by Sheila. The CT have done their own translation but suggesting a particular word say's 'blood' when it clearly say's 'dirt' doesn't win them any favours but I guess that's why they haven't posted the notes on the OS.


As you know I am doubting these notes - however why would the police record "suicide" note on a piece of paper on numbers and please written on it? Why did they just not say note with numbers and scribbles. Does not really make sense.

Personally having with hours( with others)  spent trying to  decipher the notes I would not bother until a handwriting expert determines if Sheila could have written it. Then we would need to know for sure where it was found.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #341 on: September 12, 2016, 12:49:PM »

As you know I am doubting these notes - however why would the police record "suicide" note on a piece of paper on numbers and please written on it? Why did they just not say note with numbers and scribbles. Does not really make sense.

Personally having with hours( with others)  spent trying to  decipher the notes I would not bother until a handwriting expert determines if Sheila could have written it. Then we would need to know for sure where it was found.

Because the note was found on her bedside table and they knew she had mental health problems. They later decided it was illegible. They questioned the fact that it MAY have been a suicide note.

I agree Jan, there is no point in accepting they are suicide notes until there is evidence of that. It is crucial to know where they were found as that might suggest when they were written.

When you asked JB about them, can you remember exactly what he said?
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #342 on: September 12, 2016, 01:58:PM »
Because the note was found on her bedside table and they knew she had mental health problems. They later decided it was illegible. They questioned the fact that it MAY have been a suicide note.

I agree Jan, there is no point in accepting they are suicide notes until there is evidence of that. It is crucial to know where they were found as that might suggest when they were written.

When you asked JB about them, can you remember exactly what he said?

No , and I am not sure whether I kept the correspondence , but it was basically what I said , he did not recognise the writing and he had no proof of the source.

I personally think this is the campaign team trying to eliminate or include them as appropriate . Ok fair enough , but going to the press? Sorry I don't agree with that .

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #343 on: September 12, 2016, 04:27:PM »
Maybe the letters went to the press in the hope that there would be a response of sorts from those who attended the investigation ?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #344 on: September 12, 2016, 05:22:PM »
Maybe the letters went to the press in the hope that there would be a response of sorts from those who attended the investigation ?


If EP have kept quiet about every question they have been asked so far then I don't think they are going to come forward now. And if this is proved not to be Sheila's writing then I think going to the press will make the CT team look bad. Just get it tested first. if they know the source definitely, then  I think to raise the money would not be difficult , but I don't think they do.