Most on here are guilters.

[David1819]

They're next to useless.  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3243015.stm

You wouldn't be saying that he failed 

[Caroline]

Macdonald went around telling people he was a hitman. It originates from him.

I not even going to bother going into details because you KNOW and UNDERSTAND full well why Mugsie is not a credible witness. Its on the forum for all to see

Eh? No he didn't, a story originated that he was a 'MERCENARY' he didn't start it! So. what's that got to do with being a hit man? You're making this up as you go along!

You're not going into details because you can't - no one else mentioned a hit man, so yet another of your theories falls on it's arse!

[Caroline]

Jeremy's word vs Julies.  Jeremy has passed the polygraph, Now lets see if Julie would dare try and take one 

Because he has no conscience! 

[David1819]

Eh? No he didn't, a story originated that he was a 'MERCENARY' he didn't start it! So. what's that got to do with being a hit man? You're making this up as you go along!

You're not going into details because you can't - no one else mentioned a hit man, so yet another of your theories falls on it's arse!

Mathew Macdonald went around bragging that he was a mercenary because he enjoyed the attention. It's in his police statements. A Mercinary and a Hitman are essentially the same thing. Mercinaries are usually ex Military doing private work and that includes being a Hitman.

I have heard all your excuses for Mugsie many times before, No need to repeat them. The fact you know she is a liar and not a credible witness but continue to defend her in order to justify your position just shows you are fraud.

[guest7363]

Jeremy's word vs Julies.  Jeremy has passed the polygraph, Now lets see if Julie would dare try and take one 

Funny how Julie could remember word for word what was said in the phone conversations, yet Bamber chose not to?  When Bamer was asked if MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man He replied "I wouldn't know" when he was asked did you tell Julie MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man he again replied " I don't know" Julie was telling the truth what Bamber had told her, by answering I don't know he is buying time for himself, he is uncomfortable with the truth he is avoiding giving a straight direct answer. 

[Jane]

Macdonald went around telling people he was a hitman. It originates from him.

I not even going to bother going into details because you KNOW and UNDERSTAND full well why Mugsie is not a credible witness. Its on the forum for all to see

Let's suppose we accept, for a moment, that Julie lied about what Jeremy told her. At what point, other than to imply she was pxxxxd off because he dumped her, has he sought to seriously refute her evidence. I suspect his defence may have told him not to try and go there. IF he didn't say what she says he did, what exactly MAY have been the words he did use -because SOME of those conversations will have occurred- and just how incriminating could they have been.

[sami]

Funny how Julie could remember word for word what was said in the phone conversations, yet Bamber chose not to?  When Bamer was asked if MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man He replied "I wouldn't know" when he was asked did you tell Julie MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man he again replied " I don't know" Julie was telling the truth what Bamber had told her, by answering I don't know he is buying time for himself, he is uncomfortable with the truth he is avoiding giving a straight direct answer.

excellent post justice.a classic case of selected memory once again   

[Caroline]

Mathew Macdonald went around bragging that he was a mercenary because he enjoyed the attention. It's in his police statements. A Mercinary and a Hitman are essentially the same thing. Mercinaries are usually ex Military doing private work and that includes being a Hitman.

I have heard all your excuses for Mugsie many times before, No need to repeat them. The fact you know she is a liar and not a credible witness but continue to defend her in order to justify your position just shows you are fraud.

Only one fraud here David and you can enjoy the centre of attention on that score! Care to post the crime scene pictures you SAY you have? Care to tell the IA board where you got your VAST information from?

[lookout]

MM was another immature head-the-ball !

[sami]

MM was another immature head-the-ball !

i agree sounds like a right twit

[David1819]

Let's suppose we accept, for a moment, that Julie lied about what Jeremy told her. At what point, other than to imply she was pxxxxd off because he dumped her, has he sought to seriously refute her evidence. I suspect his defence may have told him not to try and go there. IF he didn't say what she says he did, what exactly MAY have been the words he did use -because SOME of those conversations will have occurred- and just how incriminating could they have been.

They did seriously refute her evidence it was not difficult.

[David1819]

Funny how Julie could remember word for word what was said in the phone conversations, yet Bamber chose not to?  When Bamer was asked if MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man He replied "I wouldn't know" when he was asked did you tell Julie MATHEW McDONALD was a hit man he again replied " I don't know" Julie was telling the truth what Bamber had told her, by answering I don't know he is buying time for himself, he is uncomfortable with the truth he is avoiding giving a straight direct answer.

Of course she seems to remember word for what was said she made it up herself.

Do you remember that phone conversation we had Justice back in September 2001? You said "today is the day" Then moments later the twin towers came crashing down. Take my word for it people Justice was the mastermind behind 9/11 

[Jane]

They did seriously refute her evidence it was not difficult.

According to you. However, it was accepted.

[Jane]

Of course she seems to remember word for what was said she made it up herself.

Do you remember that phone conversation we had Justice back in September 2001? You said "today is the day" Then moments later the twin towers came crashing down. Take my word for it people Justice was the mastermind behind 9/11 

So what made him ring her at that hour of the morning just to tell her that "tonight's the night"?

[David1819]

So what made him ring her at that hour of the morning just to tell her that "tonight's the night"?

What or who made Julie make this up a month after the murders?