Aftermath, Where is the forensic evidence that Jeremy Bamber killed his family?

[Jane]

Disarranged kitchen brought about by the raid team when they stormed in------as they do !

I can quite see why someone, wishing to create the illusion of a fight having occurred, would deliberately set such a scene. However, I fail to see why such would be necessary for a raid team who may have considered that silence would have been a better bet.

[lookout]

I can quite see why someone, wishing to create the illusion of a fight having occurred, would deliberately set such a scene. However, I fail to see why such would be necessary for a raid team who may have considered that silence would have been a better bet.

Silence ? Battering a front door down ?

[Adam]

Disarranged kitchen brought about by the raid team when they stormed in------as they do !

I get it.

The raid team knocked everything over and smashed a light and crockery. Even though they are trained not to disturb a crime scene.

[Adam]

Two black eyes would result from a broken nose, not separate injuries, the result of one.

I get it.

One punch on the nose will result in a broken nose and two black eyes.

Sheila must have had a strong punch for a 7 stone woman. Or was this the raid team as well.

Why would Sheila do this ? Lebaleb said Neville put up no resistance and just slumped over the coal scuttle.

[Steve_uk]

I'm prepared to go some way that the Raid Team caused damage but surely not to break the ceiling light?

[Adam]

I'm prepared to go some way that the Raid Team caused damage but surely not to break the ceiling light?

What made the raid team knock over stools & sugar bowls, smash crockery and a ceiling light ?

They are trained not to and everyone inside WHF was dead.

[zoe]

i dont have repeat myself, same injury im afraid, you can ask a Dr if you dont agree, probably done with the butt.

[Adam]

i dont have repeat myself, same injury im afraid, you can ask a Dr if you dont agree, probably done with the butt.

I am not going to ask anyone. You need to provide a source as you said it. 

[buddy]

What made the raid team knock over stools & sugar bowls, smash crockery and a ceiling light ?

They are trained not to and everyone inside WHF was dead.

Because they were crapping themselves. The didn't know every one was dead.

[Adam]

Because they were crapping themselves. The didn't know every one was dead.

Best not to knock over stools, sugar bowls, smash crockery and ceiling lights then.

Why would they be scared ? They were experienced, padded up and with guns.

Anyway the evidence shows there was a massive kitchen fight between Neville and Bamber. This was straight after Bamber had unloaded all bullets in his opening salvo upstairs.

Unless someone can tell me when the kitchen fight between Sheila and Neville occurred.

[zoe]

ok ill source myself! had it happen to me kicked in face, two nicely closed up black eyes and an operation to re break my nose to set it, two more black eyes again after op! usually a good whack on the bridge of the nose will do it.

[Adam]

ok ill source myself! had it happen to me kicked in face, two nicely closed up black eyes and an operation to re break my nose to set it, two more black eyes again after op! usually a good whack on the bridge of the nose will do it.

Sourcing yourself is no good. Sheila was bare footed so kicked no one.

The 2002 appeal does not say Neville's black eyes and broken nose were caused by the rifle butt. Only perhaps the linear marks on his body.

Are you saying a 7 stone woman reached up and gave Neville one punch so hard it broke his nose and gave him two black eyes ?

[Jane]

Sourcing yourself is no good. Sheila was bare footed so kicked no one.

The 2002 appeal does not say Neville's black eyes and broken nose were caused by the rifle butt. Only perhaps the linear marks on his body.

Are you saying a 7 stone woman reached up and gave Neville one punch so hard it broke his nose and gave him two black eyes ?

If he was already slumped in a chair, she wouldn't have needed to reach up, would she.

[zoe]

it could have been caused by that, or a punch infact it could of happened when he fell, why make an argument of something that YOU do not agree with or were not their to witness?

[Adam]

If he was already slumped in a chair, she wouldn't have needed to reach up, would she.

No she would have to kneel down and start punching a dead man. Which wouldn't have disrupted the kitchen. That was all the raid team.