Aftermath, Where is the forensic evidence that Jeremy Bamber killed his family?

[David1819]

Hmm? It's always been my understanding that negatives can't be proved.

They can, but in a philosophical sense the burden of proof is on the one who asserts the positive.

If someone tells me scientology is real and xenu exists, the burden is on them to prove it. I am not obliged to prove to them scientology is not real and that xenu does not exist.

[Jane]

They can, but in a philosophical sense the burden of proof is on the one who asserts the positive.

If someone tells me scientology is real and xenu exists, the burden is on them to prove it. I am not obliged to prove to them scientology is not real and that xenu does not exist.

The nonexistence of the alleged material can't be established beyond reasonable doubt.

[Caroline]

They can, but in a philosophical sense the burden of proof is on the one who asserts the positive.

If someone tells me scientology is real and xenu exists, the burden is on them to prove it. I am not obliged to prove to them scientology is not real and that xenu does not exist.

So Jeremy is obliged to prove he is innocent and to prove that such documents do exist.

[David1819]

So Jeremy is obliged to prove he is innocent and to prove that such documents do exist.

No the crown has to prove he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. its apparent they don't play fair but what can you do

[Caroline]

No the crown has to prove he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. its apparent they don't play fair but what can you do

I'm talking about now, not then.

[Adam]

I am looking forward to a breakdown on how Sheila committed the massacre. Which was requested twice to the same poster yesterday on this thread. 

This has been asked before but has been asked in this thread as a claim has been made that there is no evidence of Bamber's guilt. So it must be Sheila, right ?

The breakdown can be basic but must match the bullet allocations and body locations and include two rifle chambers/reloads, two phone calls and one fight.

There are over a hundred pieces of forensic evidence which show Sheila did not commit the massacre. Even if there wasn't, the fact that no one can give a breakdown of how Sheila could committ the massacre to match the forensic evidence,  is already enough.

[lookout]

Jeremy is INNOCENT !

[David1819]

I'm talking about now, not then.

It still applies now. Very few convictions are quashed on the basis of the appellant proving factual innocence.

[Caroline]

It still applies now. Very few convictions are quashed on the basis of the appellant proving factual innocence.

He has to have something compelling enough to get him to the COA.

[David1819]

He has to have something compelling enough to get him to the COA.

He could prove his innocence, they still wouldn't accept it. Using the sound moderator as justification, works all the time.

[Caroline]

He could prove his innocence, they still wouldn't accept it. Using the sound moderator as justification, works all the time.

That doesn't prove innocence.

[Steve_uk]

He could prove his innocence, they still wouldn't accept it. Using the sound moderator as justification, works all the time.

If he admitted to his crimes minus the silencer there might be consequences for the relatives.

[lookout]

If he admitted to his crimes minus the silencer there might be consequences for the relatives.

It's not going to happen Steve.

[Steve_uk]

Just read another sad story about a murder/suicide. Two adults and three children. A gun was found but it's yet to be established as to who'd fired it.
The wife suffered anxiety problems after the youngest child had suffered congenital heart disease and she'd blamed herself for her daughter having lived where others hadn't. There were constant rows in the household due to the heart issues of the younger daughter.
The wife had also suffered from PTSD of which she'd said,never goes and she'd struggled emotionally with the daughter's heart condition.

What does go on in the minds of those whose decision it is to wipe out ALL the family ?

A lovely family,so very sad.

They seemed the perfect family, but were placed under tremendous stress with the medical bills arising from their daughter's heart condition. It seemed as if the husband's efforts were not deemed enough, though one never knows the full story.   http://www.inquisitr.com/3398834/megan-short-mother-of-three-killed-in-murder-suicide-had-planned-to-leave-her-husband-that-day-for-another-woman/

[zoe]

Adam, why should anyone give you and account of what happened that night, when most of the evidence against Sheila has been placed on a gagging order from the state? again your sentiment means absolutely nothing!!