Aftermath, Where is the forensic evidence that Jeremy Bamber killed his family?

[Adam]

Adam, why should anyone give you and account of what happened that night, when most of the evidence against Sheila has been placed on a gagging order from the state? again your sentiment means absolutely nothing!!

No one disputes the body locations, amount of bullets fired and bullet allocation, the two rifle chambers/reloads and the kitchen fight. Neville also made two phone calls to Bamber at 3.10am and Chelmsford police at 3.26am.

A breakdown will be a big boost as this week,  no one was even able to explain what Neville was doing when Sheila opened fire.

As said, my breakdown of how Bamber committed the massacre is available upon request. It matches the evidence. Obviously I didn't have to include Neville's two phone calls.

Please provide you're breakdown of how Sheila committed the massacre to match the above undisputed evidence. Thank you.

[lebaleb]

No one disputes the body locations, amount of bullets fired and bullet allocation, the two rifle chambers/reloads and kitchen fight. Neville also made two phone calls to Bamber at Chelmsford police at 3.10am and 3.26am.

Please provide you're breakdown to match this. Thank you.

I don't believe what happened in the kitchen could be described as a fight.

[Adam]

I don't believe what happened in the kitchen could be described as a fight.

42. The examination of Nevill Bamber's body also revealed black eyes and a broken nose, linear bruising to the cheeks, lacerations to the head, linear type bruising to the right forearm, bruising to the left wrist and forearm and three circular burn type marks to the back. The linear marks were consistent with Mr Bamber having been struck with a long blunt object, possibly a gun.

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33: In the kitchen the police found Nevill Bamber's body slumped forward over an overturned chair next to the hearth, so that his head was just above a coal scuttle. The police evidence was that there were other chairs and stools upturned and broken crockery, sugar and what appeared to be spots of blood on the floor. A ceiling light lampshade had also been broken. It will be necessary to address further these matter later but on the evidence available at trial, it appeared as though a violent struggle had taken place.

[zoe]

Id prefer not to speculate on anything to be honest and would rather take advice from an experts opinion who are qualified in whichever field appropriate.

[Adam]

Id prefer not to speculate on anything to be honest and would rather take advice from an experts opinion who are qualified in whichever field appropriate.

There is no speculating involved. You just say how Sheila would have committed the massacre which matches the accepted published crime scene.

If you can't create a breakdown after trying,  or want to miss out Neville's call to Chelmsford police,  just say.

[Adam]

Id prefer not to speculate on anything to be honest and would rather take advice from an experts opinion who are qualified in whichever field appropriate.

Excluding Nevilles call to the police does not make Bamber guilty. It just means Neville only called Bamber.

But appreciate supporters don't want to give up this card. Although Neville being alive and fully fit at 3.36am, means Sheila had to cram in an hours worth of actions into 15 minutes.

[zoe]

I don't have to answer to your demands! what is this the Spanish inquisition? bore off!

[Adam]

I don't have to answer to your demands! what is this the Spanish inquisition? bore off!

It was not a demand.

You're 3 word thread suggested you believe Bamber is innocent. The normal thing to then do is then say how the only other suspect, Sheila, committed the massacre. The crime scene is available.

You've refused although I asked several days ago. As you can't. Therefore you are supporting someone you know killed 5 members of his family. 

[zoe]

Yes, your right Adam as always, well done.

[Adam]

Yes, your right Adam as always, well done.

Good. Pleased you won't be claiming Bamber is innocent.

Dó you think he shot the twins or June/Neville first ?

[lebaleb]

42. The examination of Nevill Bamber's body also revealed black eyes and a broken nose, linear bruising to the cheeks, lacerations to the head, linear type bruising to the right forearm, bruising to the left wrist and forearm and three circular burn type marks to the back. The linear marks were consistent with Mr Bamber having been struck with a long blunt object, possibly a gun.

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33: In the kitchen the police found Nevill Bamber's body slumped forward over an overturned chair next to the hearth, so that his head was just above a coal scuttle. The police evidence was that there were other chairs and stools upturned and broken crockery, sugar and what appeared to be spots of blood on the floor. A ceiling light lampshade had also been broken. It will be necessary to address further these matter later but on the evidence available at trial, it appeared as though a violent struggle had taken place.

Yes, Adam, I have read all that.
 I meant that bludgeoning someone who has been shot 5 times already is not a 'fight' or a 'violent struggle'. A fight is an exchange of blows or weapons between combatants. In this case it was all one way regardless of who was involved i.e. Sheila or Jeremy.

[lookout]

Good. Pleased you won't be claiming Bamber is innocent.

Dó you think he shot the twins or June/Neville first ?

Bamber is INNOCENT !!

[Adam]

Yes, Adam, I have read all that.
 I meant that bludgeoning someone who has been shot 5 times already is not a 'fight' or a 'violent struggle'. A fight is an exchange of blows or weapons between combatants. In this case it was all one way regardless of who was involved i.e. Sheila or Jeremy.

If Neville got downstairs and just slumped on top of the coal scuttle after being shot 4 times, why did he have two black eyes,  a broken nose, bruising to the cheeks, arms, head, wrist and forearm and marks from the rifle butt ? And why was there so much upturned furniture ?

June was still alive when Sheila returned upstairs, but she didn't get beaten.

If Neville did put up a 'tremendous fight for life' as the judge said and the evidence shows, why was Sheila unmarked ?

[lookout]

Disarranged kitchen brought about by the raid team when they stormed in------as they do !

[zoe]

Two black eyes would result from a broken nose, not separate injuries, the result of one.