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Offline Caroline

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #90 on: June 19, 2016, 06:53:PM »
what experiments,you said the bullet case hit the bedside cabinet and landed there,which i sais was impossible ,imo

I agree Sami
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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2016, 06:54:PM »
Because this heading included mysterious calls,I remember reading about how stroppy Neville was on the phone when speaking to a male. This was shortly before the tragedy or it could even have been on the morning of the 7th.
Anyone else remember Neville's mystery caller ?
yes good point lookout,i remember it was jb who called :) ;)

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2016, 06:58:PM »
I have attached the PDF below.  :)
what rifle was used,also does it say anywhere that the bulletcases landed on the opposite side from where they were ejected

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2016, 06:59:PM »
yes good point lookout,i remember it was jb who called :) ;)





Another xxxxx xxxxxx !
 JB was busy in the fields. It was the interfering busybody BW who remembered it.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 08:25:PM by maggie »

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« Reply #94 on: June 19, 2016, 07:06:PM »




Another xxxxx xxxxxx !
 JB was busy in the fields. It was the interfering busybody BW who remembered it.
you dont like her much do you lookout,cause she was around the family and gave in insight into jb's personality,and gave a very good interview to the press
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 08:26:PM by maggie »

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2016, 07:12:PM »
you dont like her much do you lookout,cause she was around the family and gave in insight into jb's personality,and gave a very good interview to the press





She was another one who'd changed her mind because in her first statement she said she found Jeremy pleasant and a likeable fellow and wished her own son was the same,so what do you make of that ?

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #96 on: June 19, 2016, 07:13:PM »
I can't stand those who say one thing and mean another.

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« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2016, 07:16:PM »




She was another one who'd changed her mind because in her first statement she said she found Jeremy pleasant and a likeable fellow and wished her own son was the same,so what do you make of that ?
which statement have you a link to it, :)

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2016, 07:20:PM »
which statement have you a link to it, :)






How much of this case have you actually read or studied,or are you here  purely as a " yes " man ?
The archives on here have lists of statements,also if you do a search,you should find it.

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2016, 07:22:PM »





How much of this case have you actually read or studied,or are you here  purely as a " yes " man ?
The archives on here have lists of statements,also if you do a search,you should find it.

So you don't know then Lookout?
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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #100 on: June 19, 2016, 07:23:PM »
what rifle was used,also does it say anywhere that the bulletcases landed on the opposite side from where they were ejected

The scatter plot (Figure 7) illustrates the diversity of spent cartridge casing locations in
all four quadrants versus a concentration in quadrant four as seen in Figure 4 above. Once again
variability in the individual quadrants was found. For this test the spent cartridge casings landed
a minimum distance of only 3.61 inches (9.17 cm) and maximum of 165.41 inches (420.14 cm)
from the zero point
.


As this study has shown, factors previously listed including firearm design, firearm
condition, ammunition type, position firearm is held when fired, movement of the firearm and
person during firing, and grip factors such as how, where and how tightly the firearm is held
during firing can affect the locations of spent cartridge casings (Hueske, 2006). This study
illustrated that even when accounting for the above factors, significant variability occurred in the
landing locations of spent cartridge casings. This variability must be considered before efforts
are made to establish the location of a shooter based solely on the location of even an
undisturbed spent cartridge casing or a group of cartridge casings
.


They used semi automatic handguns. but if you want to be fussy here is the exact same rife used in the murders in the photo I attached below. As you can see the direction varies allot and the cases are being ejected with considerable speed and force. the most likely scenario is they bounced of the bedside table IMO

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #101 on: June 19, 2016, 07:24:PM »





How much of this case have you actually read or studied,or are you here  purely as a " yes " man ?
The archives on here have lists of statements,also if you do a search,you should find it.
this is the 3rd time i have to tell you iam here to learn about the case,i dont know everything on it.and your correct iam a yes man for the guilty side :) ;)

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2016, 07:25:PM »
So you don't know then Lookout?





Of course I know----------and so do you too !!

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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2016, 07:29:PM »




Of course I know----------and so do you too !!

Of course I do, I generally I help people find articles - I've helped you often enough.

Don't have time to read this but this is BW's statement - don't know if it's the one mentioned.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,974.msg29681.html#msg29681
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Re: Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:
« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2016, 07:32:PM »
The scatter plot (Figure 7) illustrates the diversity of spent cartridge casing locations in
all four quadrants versus a concentration in quadrant four as seen in Figure 4 above. Once again
variability in the individual quadrants was found. For this test the spent cartridge casings landed
a minimum distance of only 3.61 inches (9.17 cm) and maximum of 165.41 inches (420.14 cm)
from the zero point
.


As this study has shown, factors previously listed including firearm design, firearm
condition, ammunition type, position firearm is held when fired, movement of the firearm and
person during firing, and grip factors such as how, where and how tightly the firearm is held
during firing can affect the locations of spent cartridge casings (Hueske, 2006). This study
illustrated that even when accounting for the above factors, significant variability occurred in the
landing locations of spent cartridge casings. This variability must be considered before efforts
are made to establish the location of a shooter based solely on the location of even an
undisturbed spent cartridge casing or a group of cartridge casings
.


They used semi automatic handguns. but if you want to be fussy here is the exact same rife used in the murders in the photo I attached below. As you can see the direction varies allot and the cases are being ejected with considerable speed and force. the most likely scenario is they bounced of the bedside table IMO
we can disregard the quote in red cause hand guns were used,as for the 4 photos they prove nothing,i would like to see a film of it