Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:

[sami]

Oh dear,do I have to spell it out for you or are you just being awkward ?
Had it been a man who'd have approached/confronted Neville,regardless of it being his own son,then he'd have used what strength he'd had left in fighting back and if it had been Jeremy,then he'd have had the marks to show for it--------------in which case JB didn't have a mark on him,leaving the confrontation to it having been a woman.
Did we ever hear how Neville's opponent was after the scuffle outside the pub when Neville received a black eye,or was it that Neville wasn't a fighting man at all ?

forgive me but ive never heard that story of neville's black eye,also fighting in the street and fighting someone with a rifle for your  LIFE are 2 different things

[lookout]

forgive me but ive never heard that story of neville's black eye,also fighting in the street and fighting someone with a rifle for your  LIFE are 2 different things

I'm more than aware that there is a difference but I asked about injuries,if any, to the one who gave Neville the black eye,or did Neville allow it to happen ? In other words didn't he put up a fight then ?
The row was about land and Neville's opponent was a relative. Probably one of the two brothers who Neville was wary of and not Jeremy as most think.

[sami]

i also thing it is an insult to suggest neville maynot have been a fighting man,he risked his life every day in air for us.if it wont for our hero's we would probably be speaking in german now

[Jane]

forgive me but ive never heard that story of neville's black eye,also fighting in the street and fighting someone with a rifle for your  LIFE are 2 different things

Sami, I believe the altercation was said to have taken place in/near/outside a local pub. I'm not certain about confirmation.

[sami]

I'm more than aware that there is a difference but I asked about injuries,if any, to the one who gave Neville the black eye,or did Neville allow it to happen ? In other words didn't he put up a fight then ?
The row was about land and Neville's opponent was a relative. Probably one of the two brothers who Neville was wary of and not Jeremy as most think.

i think he did put up a brave fight,because none of the other victims had black eyes and broken nose and lacirations to the head,dispite what you think he wasnt fighting sheila,it was jb he was fighting

[sami]

Sami, I believe the altercation was said to have taken place in/near/outside a local pub. I'm not certain about confirmation.

oh,theres also another jane,someone throwing bullets at neville and saying next time they will be from the end of a gun.being a magistrate i dont think he would be fighting in the street

[David1819]

The same way a hero 70 odd year old had a go at that tw@t who shot an innocent MP. Adrenalin kicks in.

That's assuming Neville would get to her before she had a chance to shoot at him

[Jane]

oh,theres also another jane,someone throwing bullets at neville and saying next time they will be from the end of a gun.being a magistrate i dont think he would be fighting in the street

That was allegedly the now deceased farmer, Jimmy Bell. The story is possibly apocryphal as it was the book's author who recounted it. If true, it may have had to do with, what he saw as interference from June, into his failing marriage. As you rightly say, it's rather difficult to imagine a magistrate involving him self in a street brawl on his home turf.

[David1819]

I'm sure both supporters and guilters agree, the last thing Neville would do in the alleged situation was phone Bamber. He had several better options.

Or he had no options at all if things escalated quickly with Sheila.  If she was going crazy with the gun, there was no time to phone anyone, especially an asleep Bamber.

There is a zero chance Neville considered phoning Bamber, if he ever did consider asking for and then waiting for outside help. He certainly didn't phone the Flokes's or other relatives and the police have never said he phoned them.

It is not surprising the judge called Neville's phone call 'mysterious' (difficult or impossible to understand or explain).

Did the Judge really say it was 'mysterious' like he said Julie had a 'ring of truth'? Is a Judge even supposed to make such comments? surely that's misconduct, bias or prejudice

[lookout]

 I wonder at their attitude if Julie had been an ugly bint ? I doubt a " ring of truth " would have come into it.

[Jane]

I wonder at their attitude if Julie had been an ugly bint ? I doubt a " ring of truth " would have come into it.

Well, she was no oil painting, I seem to recall.

[sami]

That's assuming Neville would get to her before she had a chance to shoot at him

your talking nonsense again,neville could easily have hidden behind a door and grabbed the barrel as sheila approached or ambushed her some other way whf is a big place,he also would have known that a .22 round woukd only kill if it hit one of the vitals,and you cannot deny he was a fit man

[sami]

even crackshot jb couldnt hit the vitals with his first 4 shots at neville

[sami]

Did the Judge really say it was 'mysterious' like he said Julie had a 'ring of truth'? Is a Judge even supposed to make such comments? surely that's misconduct, bias or prejudice

judges always used to make comments like that,jb's got nothing to shout about,the poor kray's had a judge that was much worse ,he would roll his eyes and smirk at the jury when the defence were making a point

[lookout]

your talking nonsense again,neville could easily have hidden behind a door and grabbed the barrel as sheila approached or ambushed her some other way whf is a big place,he also would have known that a .22 round woukd only kill if it hit one of the vitals,and you cannot deny he was a fit man

He could also have done the same if it had been Jeremy too ?  There were plenty of rifles in the place to use for bashing if not shooting.
3 adults would have overcome 1 man,but two adults against an unstable woman with a rifle is no match.