Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:

[Jane]

Man to man ?? Neville obviously wasn't the type to floor a woman !

Are you saying that, because of the gun, Nevill took time out to differentiate between whether it was a m ale or female who was wielding it? Surely his reasoning would have been that a bullet from either would be equally as painful/devastating/deadly.

[lookout]

Are you saying that, because of the gun, Nevill took time out to differentiate between whether it was a m ale or female who was wielding it? Surely his reasoning would have been that a bullet from either would be equally as painful/devastating/deadly.

Oh dear,do I have to spell it out for you or are you just being awkward ?
Had it been a man who'd have approached/confronted Neville,regardless of it being his own son,then he'd have used what strength he'd had left in fighting back and if it had been Jeremy,then he'd have had the marks to show for it--------------in which case JB didn't have a mark on him,leaving the confrontation to it having been a woman.
Did we ever hear how Neville's opponent was after the scuffle outside the pub when Neville received a black eye,or was it that Neville wasn't a fighting man at all ?

[sami]

It's good that you answered 6 of my 30 questions.

So Sheila was 'going crazy with the gun' when Neville phoned Bamber ? Thought it would have been a bit late to phone anyone.

Thought there was an upstairs study phone. The bedroom phone mysteriously in the kitchen.

If a 6.4 Neville together with June felt they could not handle the situation, they still really had no choice but to try. Sheila was 'going crazy with the gun'. The quickest Bamber could get there was 15 minutes. If he answered the phone. Neville didn't even wake June to see if the two of them could handle the situation. She was shot with her head on the pillow. As it happened Bamber never went within 50 yards of WHF all night.

Why phone Bamber if Neville's going tackle Sheila himself ?

No, if Bamber can't let himself into WHF, and Neville can't get to the door to let him in,  how can Bamber assist ?

excellent points adam.

[sami]

The same way a hero 70 odd year old had a go at that tw@t who shot an innocent MP. Adrenalin kicks in.

exactly justice,i remember years ago a  newspaper reported that a mum had lifted a van by herself to free her child,adrenalin

[Caroline]

Man to man ?? Neville obviously wasn't the type to floor a woman !

If she had a gun, obviously he would. I have head this said before and it's nonsense.

[Jane]

Oh dear,do I have to spell it out for you or are you just being awkward ?
Had it been a man who'd have approached/confronted Neville,regardless of it being his own son,then he'd have used what strength he'd had left in fighting back and if it had been Jeremy,then he'd have had the marks to show for it--------------in which case JB didn't have a mark on him,leaving the confrontation to it having been a woman.
Did we ever hear how Neville's opponent was after the scuffle outside the pub when Neville received a black eye,or was it that Neville wasn't a fighting man at all ?

Well, isn't it just as well that he didn't adopt that attitude during his war effort or he may never have returned. I might also add that, if he took time out to reach a decision re Sheila with gun, he obviously didn't think there was any immediate danger, in which case, why would he have bothered making a call to Jeremy at silly o' clock.

[sami]

If she had a gun, obviously he would. I have head this said before and it's nonsense.

caroline,he would have rushed her maybe take 1or2 shots in the process ,but would have got the rifle from her,could even have ambushed her,remember its not a handgun so all neville had to do was grab the  long barrel 

[Caroline]

caroline,he would have rushed her maybe take 1or2 shots in the process ,but would have got the rifle from her,could even have anbushed her,remember its not a handgun so all neville had to do was grab the  long barrel 

Of course he would, not just for his own good but for hers too. The idea that he wouldn't have done all he could to stop her hurting herself or anyone else is ludicrous.

[guest7363]

caroline,he would have rushed her maybe take 1or2 shots in the process ,but would have got the rifle from her,could even have anbushed her,remember its not a handgun so all neville had to do was grab the  long barrel 

Quite true Sami, remember how close the barrel was and Sheila was a novice, unlike Jeremy

[sami]

Of course he would, not just for his own good but for hers too. The idea that he wouldn't have done all he could to stop her hurting herself or anyone else is ludicrous.

whats even more ludicrous is that he would phone jb ,as adam said he didnt have the keys so how would nb open the door for him ,how did nb even know he would be alive by the time jb came.neville was a war hero and would not have needed anyone

[lookout]

The two PC's who DIDN'T give evidence were Cracknell and Norcup-------I wonder why ? Because they'd BOTH known that it was Neville who'd rang as they'd have heard the call, but if they'd been called as witnesses,it would have given JB an alibi.

West was receiving a disciplinary for falsifying evidence,but neither Cracknell or Norcup backed him up ??

[sami]

The two PC's who DIDN'T give evidence were Cracknell and Norcup-------I wonder why ? Because they'd BOTH known that it was Neville who'd rang as they'd have heard the call, but if they'd been called as witnesses,it would have given JB an alibi.

West was receiving a disciplinary for falsifying evidence,but neither Cracknell or Norcup backed him up ??

where did you hear this

[lookout]

where did you hear this

It's a known FACT. The reason you haven't heard about it is because it happens to be true and guilters don't do truth ! They either ignore it or devise their own version.

[Jane]

It's a known FACT. The reason you haven't heard about it is because it happens to be true and guilters don't do truth ! They either ignore it or devise their own version.

If it's "a known FACT" presumably we have their reports/WS on here and we can all benefit from your knowledge.

[sami]

It's a known FACT. The reason you haven't heard about it is because it happens to be true and guilters don't do truth ! They either ignore it or devise their own version.

as you youself once said ,'show me in black n white'