silencer evidence

[sami]

You've been told time out of number how and why Sheila committed the murders so why do you keep asking ? The ONLY conclusion that I can come to is that the only posts you read are your OWN !! It's been " explained " in various versions as that's all we can do is to surmise how she'd done it because none of us were there  It's a debate and there are no hard and fast RULES that what any of us say,has to be taken as fact !

i think adam was asking gringo how the evidence could be fabicated ,because not all dis believers have the same theorys as to how it was done.david thinks she was sat upright ,and you said lying flat with her head slightly proped up on the sidecabinet.which i cant agree with because as soon as you start tilting you head forward while lying flat the chin gets tucked into the top of chest making the chin shot go to the brain ,impossible

[lookout]

i think adam was asking gringo how the evidence could be fabicated ,because not all dis believers have the same theorys as to how it was done.david thinks she was sat upright ,and you said lying flat with her head slightly proped up on the sidecabinet.which i cant agree with because as soon as you start tilting you head forward while lying flat the chin gets tucked into the top of chest making the chin shot go to the brain ,impossible

If Sheila had been in a sitting position,she'd have slumped sideways, and  would not have slithered into a lying flat position.This is my reason for saying that she was already flattish after the second shot.

[sami]

If Sheila had been in a sitting position,she'd have slumped sideways, and  would not have slithered into a lying flat position.This is my reason for saying that she was already flattish after the second shot.

i see what you mean

[guest7363]

If you apply logic to any suicide that takes place using a firearm,
A shot to the side of the head, in the mouth, or to the front of the chest is usually suicide. Wounds located anywhere else are most likely homicide.
Most suicide shots are contact shots, Anything further away is likely homicide.
Number of shots fired: After one shot, even if a suicide victim isn't dead, he would likely be unconscious or physically unable to fire a second time. Multiple shots usually indicate homicide.
Returning a silencer back to a cupboard after shooting one self usually indicates homicide?

[Adam]

You've been told time out of number how and why Sheila committed the murders so why do you keep asking ? The ONLY conclusion that I can come to is that the only posts you read are your OWN !! It's been " explained " in various versions as that's all we can do is to surmise how she'd done it because none of us were there  It's a debate and there are no hard and fast RULES that what any of us say,has to be taken as fact !

I was asking Gringo.

I asked 'how'. Not why.

Please include 1/2 phone calls, a kitchen fight and the insertion/removal of the silencer.

I also asked Gringo how the silencer was fabricated. But feel free to answer that yourself as doubtful Gringo will answer. 

[sami]

If you apply logic to any suicide that takes place using a firearm,
A shot to the side of the head, in the mouth, or to the front of the chest is usually suicide. Wounds located anywhere else are most likely homicide.
Most suicide shots are contact shots, Anything further away is likely homicide.
Number of shots fired: After one shot, even if a suicide victim isn't dead, he would likely be unconscious or physically unable to fire a second time. Multiple shots usually indicate homicide.
Returning a silencer back to a cupboard after shooting one self usually indicates homicide?

yes i will agree with that

[Jane]

Your only reason for Sheila not having done it is that Jeremy dd  So what are your reasons for not blaming Sheila ? It's not enough to say it could have been either one of them when one is unable to speak for herself but at the same time when there is no evidence against Jeremy,shouldn't you start looking at the history/background of the accused ? Which is what I did when I learnt of Sheila's traumatic life,beginning with losing babies !!

You've either digressed or missed the point here, Lookout. There are various scenarios in which all the pieces/timings add up and adequately show how Jeremy could have done it. Thus far, you've done nothing by way of offering ANYTHING in which all pieces/timings fit, regarding Sheila doing it.

[lookout]

Because no evidence was found pointing to either Sheila or Jeremy----------(-pathologist not knowing if it was murder or suicide ) I think I've done more than enough explaining about my thoughts on it being Sheila that it's NOT my fault if you're ALL too thick to understand what I've been writing in my 28,000 POSTS !!

[Jane]

Because no evidence was found pointing to either Sheila or Jeremy----------(-pathologist not knowing if it was murder or suicide ) I think I've done more than enough explaining about my thoughts on it being Sheila that it's NOT my fault if you're ALL too thick to understand what I've been writing in my 28,000 POSTS !!

Oh, you've explained your thoughts, vociferously and frequently. A thought here and a thought there. Trouble is, whilst, at a push, they COULD be said to stand alone, once they're joined up we have Sheila, by necessity, shooting June from under the bed and/or and already deceased June delivering the fatal shot to Sheila.

[lookout]

Oh, you've explained your thoughts, vociferously and frequently. A thought here and a thought there. Trouble is, whilst, at a push, they COULD be said to stand alone, once they're joined up we have Sheila, by necessity, shooting June from under the bed and/or and already deceased June delivering the fatal shot to Sheila.

Whatever I've posted includes more or less a battle between the two women however I believe happened, with JB completely out of the scenario. Isn't it enough to tell you that JB had nothing to do with it. Where there's no evidence,there's no debate. All that there's been from your camp is the same repetative theme of " he's guilty " minus any substance to your claims,only parrot-fashion of what's already written up,and what,to you,are the majority on the forum following because everyone else happens to.

[sami]

Because no evidence was found pointing to either Sheila or Jeremy----------(-pathologist not knowing if it was murder or suicide ) I think I've done more than enough explaining about my thoughts on it being Sheila that it's NOT my fault if you're ALL too thick to understand what I've been writing in my 28,000 POSTS !!

ouch ,you should change your stance,lookout just quoting adam

[lookout]

ouch ,you should change your stance,lookout just quoting adam

Why,how much is in it for you ??

[sami]

Why,how much is in it for you ??

would be nice to have you on board

[Jane]

Whatever I've posted includes more or less a battle between the two women however I believe happened, with JB completely out of the scenario. Isn't it enough to tell you that JB had nothing to do with it. Where there's no evidence,there's no debate. All that there's been from your camp is the same repetative theme of " he's guilty " minus any substance to your claims,only parrot-fashion of what's already written up,and what,to you,are the majority on the forum following because everyone else happens to.

When it comes to parrot fashion with no substance, I think the pot is calling the kettle black. Give me an intelligent and workable scenario for June shooting Sheila dead and a further explanation of how June managed to die with no one to shoot her and you may have something worth listening to.

[sami]

When it comes to parrot fashion with no substance, I think the pot is calling the kettle black. Give me an intelligent and workable scenario for June shooting Sheila dead and a further explanation of how June managed to die with no one to shoot her and you may have something worth listening to.

looking forward to her answer ,jane,if she has one