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[Caroline]

It just seems a strange way of doing. I don't think I'd like to be reminded seeing blood on the lampshade and wallpaper.  There again,AE rinsed out knickers from a blood-filled bucket.? What was that all about ?

To my mind,AE obviously DIDN'T think Jeremy was guilty or all that lot would have been left-----don't you worry.It was the contents of the will that changed everyone's mind !! Not the fact that they thought he was guilty.

How do you know there is a blood stained lampshade anyway?

[lookout]

How do you know there is a blood stained lampshade anyway?

We've read enough about it haven't we,along with the bloodstained wallpaper.?

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one that pointed it out when you thought JB was innocent. It's surprising how your memory fades,conveniently,when you start your" investigations" from another angle ? 

[sami]

what i find interesting is the broken lampshade in the kitchen.theres only two ways it could have been broken,1,the rifle was being weilded about to strike nb or both nb and the killer both had their hands on it and were fighting for control of it,it also begs the question would sc have had the strength to hit someone or something so hard with the rifle it broke a piece of the stock off.i very much doubt it

[Caroline]

We've read enough about it haven't we,along with the bloodstained wallpaper.?

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one that pointed it out when you thought JB was innocent. It's surprising how your memory fades,conveniently,when you start your" investigations" from another angle ?

Nope, not me, so there is no evidence of this - just gossip!

[Caroline]

what i find interesting is the broken lampshade in the kitchen.theres only two ways it could have been broken,1,the rifle was being weilded about to strike nb or both nb and the killer both had their hands on it and were fighting for control of it,it also begs the question would sc have had the strength to hit someone or something so hard with the rifle it broke a piece of the stock off.i very much doubt it

There is another possibility, the killer made it look like there was a huge fight and broke the light fitting on purpose.

[sami]

There is another possibility, the killer made it look like there was a huge fight and broke the light fitting on purpose.

true caroline,i didnt think of that

[lookout]

Nope, not me, so there is no evidence of this - just gossip!

Indeed, the whole case was based on gossip.

[sami]

anybody know which wood was used to make the stock on that rifle

[lookout]

There is another possibility, the killer made it look like there was a huge fight and broke the light fitting on purpose.

The " killer ?" You forgot to name JB. Another memory lapse ?

[sami]

The " killer ?" You forgot to name JB. Another memory lapse ?

jb is the killer in our eyes,but not yours,so i think caroline was just being polite

[Caroline]

The " killer ?" You forgot to name JB. Another memory lapse ?

Nothing wrong with my memory Lookout. What do you mean 'another' YOU mentioned the lampshade - that is nothing to do with me Clearly its something YOU have latched onto without ANY supporting evidence or reference. Rather than admit that, you try and push it onto someone else. This is YOUR claim NOT mine!

[maggie]

There is another possibility, the killer made it look like there was a huge fight and broke the light fitting on purpose.

That is a possibility Caroline, we do tend to be lulled into acceptance rather than questioning what has become the accepted truth' of what happened that night.  In fact if we think outside the box we realise there are other possibilities which are not often considered.   

I along with quite a few others believe Nevill was hit when he was already collapsed on a chair, how else could anyone have hit him as hard as would have been necessary, if he was standing?  He was head and shoulders  taller than Sheila therefore it would have been impossible for her to get near him if he was standing and also quite a good 4 inches taller than Jeremy which although easier would still have been a challenge if Jeremy had tried to bash him that way, because Nevill's reach as well as his height would have been a huge advantage. 

This does call into question the whole idea of the 'struggle in the kitchen' imo, including the paint on the silencer and scratches on the stone lintel. 

It would have been easy enough to lay into Neil once he was felled but still alive and then to trash the kitchen to imply there had been a mammoth struggle.   Considering the suggested strength of the struggle there is very little evidence of blood spillage and spattering.

[sami]

That is a possibility Caroline, we do tend to be lulled into acceptance rather than questioning what has become the accepted truth' of what happened that night.  In fact if we think outside the box we realise there are other possibilities which are not often considered.   

I believe Nevill was hit when he was already collapsed on a chair, how else could anyone have hit him as hard as would have been necessary if he was standing?  He was head and shoulders  taller than Sheila therefore it would have been impossible for her to get near him if he was standing and also quite a good 4 inches taller than Jeremy which although easier would still have been a challenge if Jeremy had tried to bash him that way as Nevill's reach as well as his height would have been a huge advantage. 

This does call into question the whole idea of the 'struggle in the kitchen' imo, including the paint on the silencer and scratches on the stone lintel. 

It would have been easy enough to lay into Neil once he was felled but still alive and then to trash the kitchen to imply there had been a mammoth struggle.   Considering the suggested strength of the struggle there is very little evidence of blood spillage and spattering.

maggie,what do you think the killer hoped to gain by staging the scene to look as if a big fight had taken place.nb had wounds to the jaw and arm when he made it to kitchen ,the wounds were not in vital areas being .22 rounds they would not cause as much blood loss as higher calliba bullets,i think nb fought hard for his life,your right the non gunshot wounds appear to have been made while the killer was above nb or nb was slumped,what blood splatter could occour with black eyes and broken nose.and lacirations to the head.very little i think ,jb could easily have cleaned the rifle of any blood.rifles are solidly built the broken stock suggests it was struck against something with extreme force and strength far more than i imagine sc to have.imo

[Jane]

maggie,what do you think the killer hoped to gain by staging the scene to look as if a big fight had taken place.nb had wounds to the jaw and arm when he made it to kitchen ,the wounds were not in vital areas being .22 rounds they would not cause as much blood loss as higher calliba bullets,i think nb fought hard for his life,your right the non gunshot wounds appear to have been made while the killer was above nb or nb was slumped,what blood splatter could occour with black eyes and broken nose.and lacirations to the head.very little i think ,jb could easily have cleaned the rifle of any blood.rifles are solidly built the broken stock suggests it was struck against something with extreme force and strength far more than i imagine sc to have.imo

Sami, It's my opinion that Jeremy would have attempted to get in side the mind of someone -Sheila- who had gone mad to recreate what he thought she'd do. So haphazard/random/unstructured mayhem would have fitted the bill.

[maggie]

maggie,what do you think the killer hoped to gain by staging the scene to look as if a big fight had taken place.nb had wounds to the jaw and arm when he made it to kitchen ,the wounds were not in vital areas being .22 rounds they would not cause as much blood loss as higher calliba bullets,i think nb fought hard for his life,your right the non gunshot wounds appear to have been made while the killer was above nb or nb was slumped,what blood splatter could occour with black eyes and broken nose.and lacirations to the head.very little i think ,jb could easily have cleaned the rifle of any blood.rifles are solidly built the broken stock suggests it was struck against something with extreme force and strength far more than i imagine sc to have.imo

Hi sami
If JB was the perpetrator he may have tried to set the scene as he visualised it would have been if Nevill had been confronted by Sheila in a psychotic rage.  If it was JB's handiwork he did quite a good job because the 'struggle in the kitchen' is accepted as fact by many.