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[Steve_uk]

Thinking about those window stickers reminds me of Robin Bain, who drove around with wife Margaret in the 1960s with the sticker "Have you hugged your child today?".

[David1819]

Thinking about those window stickers reminds me of Robin Bain, who drove around with wife Margaret in the 1960s with the sticker "Have you hugged your child today?".

Robin Bain done more than just hugging 

[lookout]

Robin Bain done more than just hugging 

He sure did !!

[sami]

I can't imagine the effect on Colin, Jan and others connected with the case who lost loved ones to be handed a Bamber pen or spot a window sticker on the car in front declaring his innocence.

sounds very immoral ,steve

[lookout]

I can't imagine the effect on Colin, Jan and others connected with the case who lost loved ones to be handed a Bamber pen or spot a window sticker on the car in front declaring his innocence.

Steve I understand what you're saying and what you mean,but the same people and millions more don't know the full story. It's easy to follow a crowd and take their word for what happened.I'd do the same if I was that way inclined,it's the easiest option if you haven't studied the case.

[sami]

Steve I understand what you're saying and what you mean,but the same people and millions more don't know the full story. It's easy to follow a crowd and take their word for what happened.I'd do the same if I was that way inclined,it's the easiest option if you haven't studied the case.

i see what you mean lookout,i dont agree,but i understand you,maybe its best we all wait and see what happens in any future appeal.people are split about it ,and most just follow the polices version of events.and lets face it jb wasnt caught in whf with the rifle in his hands,some things have to be cleared up.i still agree with steve the effect on colin must be taken into account

[lookout]

i see what you mean lookout,i dont agree,but i understand you,maybe its best we all wait and see what happens in any future appeal.people are split about it ,and most just follow the polices version of events.and lets face it jb wasnt caught in whf with the rifle in his hands,some things have to be cleared up.i still agree with steve the effect on colin must be taken into account

Sami I also understand how Colin must have felt and been,devastating as it was to him because I reckon that he probably suffered more than any of the others did.
However,he was still as ignorant as everyone else was as regards Sheila's illness as the support wasn't there and he took the easy way out by divorcing Sheila at her time of need,so that in mind it did change my views about him,along with his unacceptable behaviour. He was clearly at fault and Sheila must have been heartbroken which all added to the damage to her already fragile state. 

[Jane]

Sami I also understand how Colin must have felt and been,devastating as it was to him because I reckon that he probably suffered more than any of the others did.
However,he was still as ignorant as everyone else was as regards Sheila's illness as the support wasn't there and he took the easy way out by divorcing Sheila at her time of need,so that in mind it did change my views about him,along with his unacceptable behaviour. He was clearly at fault and Sheila must have been heartbroken which all added to the damage to her already fragile state.

But if he'd stayed with her out of duty or sympathy he'd have been a very poor companion or bed fellow. What's more, Sheila would have known he no longer wanted her. Doing is all very well but when feeling is taken out of the equation we can become robotic.

[sami]

But if he'd stayed with her out of duty or sympathy he'd have been a very poor companion or bed fellow. What's more, Sheila would have known he no longer wanted her. Doing is all very well but when feeling is taken out of the equation we can become robotic.

thats also very true ,jane

[sami]

i think people are split,those who see jb as innocent take it as a good campain tactic,and those who see him as guilty ,find it in very poor taste and immoral

[lookout]

But if he'd stayed with her out of duty or sympathy he'd have been a very poor companion or bed fellow. What's more, Sheila would have known he no longer wanted her. Doing is all very well but when feeling is taken out of the equation we can become robotic.

But it WAS his duty and he could have been more assertive in finding out about her illness partcularly as he professed to have loved her. True love isn't just about the bedroom,etc,it includes help and assistance and a deep understanding of each other.Sheila in her illness would NOT have accepted the fact that he no longer wanted her. The least he could have shown was perseverance even if it had been for the sake of the twins.
No way could I have married a man who only thought about himself !! This is what it amounted to with Colin. No wonder June didn't like him.

[maggie]

Steve I understand what you're saying and what you mean,but the same people and millions more don't know the full story. It's easy to follow a crowd and take their word for what happened.I'd do the same if I was that way inclined,it's the easiest option if you haven't studied the case.

Of course anyone should be able to understand what Steve means but we do have free speech in this country, thank goodness. 

We have freedom to protest and that is everybody's right not just the right of those we happen to agree with.  I should think the pain of the loss of people affected in this way is the difficult part not the odd sticker or pen, which is par for the course.

[lookout]

Speaking of todays marriages it's so sad that a lot of people don't even give it a chance as the whole idea is to work together taking the rough with the smooth and also in sickness and in health which isn't always adhered to.

There were far more struggles in the 50's and 60's,but when people got married then, it was also longer lasting because these people worked at their marriage together and thrashed out their differences in order to understand each other better thus were able to resolve any issues without the need to fly off to the nearest solicitor. No marriage is absolutely perfect,nor without its heated arguments ( it wouldn't be normal ) it's something of a joint enterprise in which both have to work at it if they want to keep it intact and not back out at the first hurdle. Patience and understanding are the key products of this fading institution.

[sami]

Speaking of todays marriages it's so sad that a lot of people don't even give it a chance as the whole idea is to work together taking the rough with the smooth and also in sickness and in health which isn't always adhered to.

There were far more struggles in the 50's and 60's,but when people got married then, it was also longer lasting because these people worked at their marriage together and thrashed out their differences in order to understand each other better thus were able to resolve any issues without the need to fly off to the nearest solicitor. No marriage is absolutely perfect,nor without its heated arguments ( it wouldn't be normal ) it's something of a joint enterprise in which both have to work at it if they want to keep it intact and not back out at the first hurdle. Patience and understanding are the key products of this fading institution.

very true,lookout ,theres also no respect from younger genration.in our time one would help an old lady with her bags,but now they would rob her of her purse.shame

[Caroline]

Steve I understand what you're saying and what you mean,but the same people and millions more don't know the full story. It's easy to follow a crowd and take their word for what happened.I'd do the same if I was that way inclined,it's the easiest option if you haven't studied the case.

Lots of people have studied the case - studying the case don't automatically bring you to an innocent conclusion. People have their own minds - I'm certainly NOT following any crowd and have looked at things from both sides. It's just as easy to say that 'some people' like to dig their heels in and couldn't possibly consider that they could be wrong - I'd do the same if I were that way inclined.