Why only Neville's back was burnt:

[maggie]

AP has always been a bit of mystery.

I do agree David.  He was at the farm the week before the massacre and practised target shooting at the back of the barn with Jeremy.  He regarded himself as Nevill and June's second son because his mother (Nevill's sister) died when he was very young and his father travelled a lot with his job.  Most of his holidays from boarding school were spent with Nevill and June. 
Have always thought, when it is claimed adamantly that JB is a psychopath and I don't deny he may be,  that there was no real proof he is anymore than AP may be, quite simply we do not know.

[maggie]

I thought he was doing well in Ibiza,with his own property and bar/restaurant,so it didn't all go on drugs. He even invited a couple of EP officers there when they questioned him ( all very amicable,of course ) I wouldn't have called him poor either.
How many more of them had drug problems ? 

As far as we know don't think he particularly had a drug problem, Lookout.

[lookout]

Why didn't Colin Inherit anything? For argument sake if he argued that Jeremy could have killed the Twins last would that not make him the sole beneficiary if true?

This is where time of death comes in----------which there wasn't ! This has always annoyed me greatly because it's the first thing that's carried out.


I notice that the relatives didn't force that issue !!

[Steve_uk]

Why didn't Colin Inherit anything? For argument sake if he argued that Jeremy could have killed the Twins last would that not make him the sole beneficiary if true?

I have heard contrary stories about whether it's the last person to have been killed whose wishes are granted but in this case from what I have read the eldest person to have been killed takes priority, and as June was older than Nevill by a few days her wishes had pre-eminence. It must have been dodgy legal advice because in this scenario everything went to Pamela, but she must have been instructed that this could have been challenged legally, hence the compromise that was made.

[Steve_uk]

I have heard contrary stories about whether it's the last person to have been killed whose wishes are granted but in this case from what I have read the eldest person to have been killed takes priority, and as June was older than Nevill by a few days her wishes had pre-eminence. It must have been dodgy legal advice because in this scenario everything went to Pamela, but she must have been instructed that this could have been challenged legally, hence the compromise that was made.

Just to clarify: the estate was essentially made up of June and Nevill's fortune, amounting to a combined total of £436,000. Nevill's estate was willed to his wife, so upon the deaths of five it was June's next of kin who stood to inherit, her sister Pamela Boutflour.

[lookout]

The will should have followed the rules of someone dying intestate. That would have shaken things up a bit. This is where you get such terms as " per sterpes " along with all the other jargon that follows.

[Steve_uk]

The will should have followed the rules of someone dying intestate. That would have shaken things up a bit. This is where you get such terms as " per sterpes " along with all the other jargon that follows.

The problem with per sterpes here was that Sheila didn't have anything to leave in her own right, nor did the twins, and of course with Sheila and Colin being divorced Sheila's next of kin were Nevill and June. I assume that with the death of June and Sheila being the main beneficiary of her mother's will that had the boys survived they would then have had a claim.

[lebaleb]

Just to clarify: the estate was essentially made up of June and Nevill's fortune, amounting to a combined total of £436,000. Nevill's estate was willed to his wife, so upon the deaths of five it was June's next of kin who stood to inherit, her sister Pamela Boutflour.

I think you are wrong. If a person dies intestate then inheritance goes to the children. However in this case both Neville and June had written wills that gave the bulk of the estate to Jeremy. Only 10% for Sheila and some minor sums for the relatives. Pamela Boutflour would only ever be the beneficiary if she were named or if June and Neville had no children. The fact that they were adopted makes no difference.

[lookout]

 You're right,lebaleb,as my late husband and myself found that out in 1986 when his sister suddenly died.
As per the law/rules,he'd always thought that he was next of kin to his sister after the loss of the eldest brother,but it didn't/doesn't work out that way.
It was the children of the eldest ( deceased ) brother who benefitted,where no will was found ( and believe me the solicitor nearly broke his neck looking everywhere for a will ) This was a family who the sister was never very close to---------but the law was the law and the estate was divided between the children/adults and my late husband and I.
The  family solicitor left the room so that husband and I could have a good swear.We had been attending the poor woman during her short illness,nobody else went near just because she was " eccentric ".
The private doctor who we'd sent for had diagnosed muscle pain in her back and left painkillers. I rang for an ambulance,urgently at 4pm in the afternoon when she was vomiting,and at 8.20,the ambulance arrived----------the call having been forgotten !! A 999 one at that. Then at 3am the following morning,the 59 year old was dead.If anyone could have sued for incompetency,it was us,but we were too upset to deal with anything other than the shock of the death of a beautiful woman.

[Steve_uk]

I think you are wrong. If a person dies intestate then inheritance goes to the children. However in this case both Neville and June had written wills that gave the bulk of the estate to Jeremy. Only 10% for Sheila and some minor sums for the relatives. Pamela Boutflour would only ever be the beneficiary if she were named or if June and Neville had no children. The fact that they were adopted makes no difference.

I think this is a common misconception, though I await correction. The main estate was made up of Nevill and June's cash deposits(as it turned out they had very similar amounts in liquid assets) which totalled £436,000, which I'm guessing would be worth around £3 million today. Remember that the Bambers were tenants so didn't own the White House Farm building. Nevill had left his money not to Jeremy but to June,so if as was likely in the natural scheme of things Nevill died before June then it would be June in the driving seat, so to speak. As far as I'm aware June had left her money to Sheila, so the only way Jeremy could inherit the total amount was to do away with all of them, as is what happened.

[David1819]

I think this is a common misconception, though I await correction. The main estate was made up of Nevill and June's cash deposits(as it turned out they had very similar amounts in liquid assets) which totalled £436,000, which I'm guessing would be worth around £3 million today. Remember that the Bambers were tenants so didn't own the White House Farm building. Nevill had left his money not to Jeremy but to June,so if as was likely in the natural scheme of things Nevill died before June then it would be June in the driving seat, so to speak. As far as I'm aware June had left her money to Sheila, so the only way Jeremy could inherit the total amount was to do away with all of them, as is what happened.

£1.25 Million

[lookout]

Something which really got my back up on re-reading AE's COLP statement was the fact that she seemed miffed to be doing it as she " didn't wish to be reminded of the tragedy ". What ? She was living in the damn place where the tragedy happened ! Couldn't get there quick enough.

[guest2181]

I think this is a common misconception, though I await correction. The main estate was made up of Nevill and June's cash deposits(as it turned out they had very similar amounts in liquid assets) which totalled £436,000, which I'm guessing would be worth around £3 million today. Remember that the Bambers were tenants so didn't own the White House Farm building. Nevill had left his money not to Jeremy but to June,so if as was likely in the natural scheme of things Nevill died before June then it would be June in the driving seat, so to speak. As far as I'm aware June had left her money to Sheila, so the only way Jeremy could inherit the total amount was to do away with all of them, as is what happened.

[sherlock]

£1.25 Million

Depends how you calculate the value of 1985 money into today's value ...

There are many different ways of doing this that will give you very different values ...

For example Julie bought a flat in London with her £25,000

That flat today must be worth £500,000

At that rate the inheritance would be worth over 8 million pounds in today's money ...

What is certain is that in 1985 the inheritance could have brought almost 20 flats in central London ...

There was a lot less money about in the 1980's than today ...

Big money was a lot harder to make then than now - there were far less opportunities to do so ...

The Bamber inheritance was a huge fortune whatever way you look at it ...

[Adam]

 https://youtu.be/_i2CjYDJGTo

This is the video regarding Neville's back burns. Saying it was caused on the night. Bamber's legal team saying it was caused by the rifle without the silencer attached. Which all means nothing except for highlighting Bamber's guilt,  as there is no way Sheila would have been composed enough to stop and do this.

It also is another source saying Bamber was the one who saw the window movement.

An indeoendent expert Mick Gradwell says the evidence quite significantly points to Bamber's guilt.

I agree with Simon Mckay when he says it would be the biggest MOJ ever. It seems the best he was going for was to show the conviction was unsafe.