Why only Neville's back was burnt:

[Adam]

Bamber either put the silencer away straight after killing Sheila. Then made a spontaneous decision to burn Neville's back with the rifle end prior to leaving.

Or he left the silencer next to Sheila. And went back downstairs with the rifle to check on Neville. He burnt his back three times to check for signs of life. He then correctly changed his mind and decided to put the silencer away. As no one would believe Sheila took the silencer off downstairs to burn Neville's back. Then took it back upstairs with her.

[sherlock]

In which case, it has to mean that whoever you are thinking to throw accusations at, must have known that the space under the stairs had been turned into a gun cupboard.

They must have known that they would easily find a gun and ammunition readily available ...

And they would have to be very competent with an anschuz rifle ...

[sherlock]

Bamber either put the silencer away straight after killing Sheila. Then made a spontaneous decision to burn Neville's back with the rifle end prior to leaving.

Or he left the silencer next to Sheila. And went back downstairs with the rifle to check on Neville. He burnt his back three times to check for signs of life. He then correctly changed his mind and decided to put the silencer away. As no one would believe Sheila took the silencer off downstairs to burn Neville's back. Then took it back upstairs with her.

All very interesting Adam ...

But i am more interested that not even you can even begin to put the smallest hole in the theory i have put forward ...

All you can do is put other possibilities ...

Why can't you even begin to put a hole in the theory Adam ?

Or explain why it is not possible ?

Or even explain why it is not likely ?

Now that is interesting Adam ...

[Jane]

They must have known that they would easily find a gun and ammunition readily available ...

And they would have to be very competent with an anschuz rifle ...

Where is there proof that Jeremy ever left the gun where he said he did. His cover story needed it to be somewhere in which Sheila's deranged eyes would fall on it, but it's unlikely that any of the three remaining adults would have left a gun laying around. If Jeremy left it anywhere, I suspect it would have been in a place where he could easily lay hands on it later, which may -or not- have been the gun cupboard.

[sherlock]

Where is there proof that Jeremy ever left the gun where he said he did. His cover story needed it to be somewhere in which Sheila's deranged eyes would fall on it, but it's unlikely that any of the three remaining adults would have left a gun laying around. If Jeremy left it anywhere, I suspect it would have been in a place where he could easily lay hands on it later, which may -or not- have been the gun cupboard.

It is possible Jeremy left the gun out ...

I would be shocked if Neville had not put it away in the gun cupboard ...

Only because his grandchildren were in the house ...

But if this theory is correct then the person or people would have known they would find an anshuz and ammunition in the gun cupboard ...

Anthony was there days before paying great attention to were the 2 anshuz rifles and ammunition were ...

Read his own statement about it - it's in the forum ...

He claims that he took his own anshuz rifle away on that occasion ...

Coincidence - maybe ...

Maybe not ...

[Adam]

All very interesting Adam ...

But i am more interested that not even you can even begin to put the smallest hole in the theory i have put forward ...

All you can do is put other possibilities ...

Why can't you even begin to put a hole in the theory Adam ?

Or explain why it is not possible ?

Or even explain why it is not likely ?

Now that is interesting Adam ...

This is a thread about Neville's burnt back.

What theory is that ? That the relatives killed the family to make it look like murder/suicide. Then framed Bamber afterwards ? This is certainly a new theory.

[Jane]

It is possible Jeremy left the gun out ...

I would be shocked if Neville had not put it away in the gun cupboard ...

Only because his grandchildren were in the house ...

But if this theory is correct then the person or people would have known they would find an anshuz and ammunition in the gun cupboard ...

Anthony was there days before paying great attention to were the 2 anshuz rifles and ammunition were ...

Read his own statement about it - it's in the forum ...

He claims that he took his own anshuz rifle away on that occasion ...

Coincidence - maybe ...

Maybe not ...

Unless he was working as Jeremy's accomplice, what would have been AP's motive for wiping out the entire family?

[Adam]

Everyone is in agreement with Bamber that Neville's burns are  from the rifle minus the silencer.

There is no way Neville would accidentially inflict three injuries on his back in the same location. And no way anyone else would prior to the massacre.

One option is Bamber used one of the other rifles to burn Neville. The murder weapon was by now lying on top of Sheila. The gun cupboard was close to the kitchen, aga and Neville and there were a lot of available guns.

[Jane]

Everyone is in agreement with Bamber that Neville's burns are  from the rifle minus the silencer.

There is no way Neville would accidentially inflict three injuries on his back in the same location. And no way anyone else would prior to the massacre.

One option is Bamber used one of the other rifles to burn Neville. The murder weapon was by now lying on top of Sheila. The gun cupboard was close to the kitchen, aga and Neville and there were a lot of available guns.

But it's very possible that a doctor/surgeon MAY have to remove small growths.

[Adam]

But it's very possible that a doctor/surgeon MAY have to remove small growths.

That's something that's never been mentioned before.

I have to still agree with Bamber. Unless I see a source that Neville had three small growths removed from his back, in the same location. And see images that removing these causes scars that look just like a gun marks.

[Jane]

That's something that's never been mentioned before.

I have to still agree with Bamber. Unless I see a source that Neville had three small growths removed from his back, in the same location. And see images that removing these causes scars that look just like a gun marks.

That would be the same as the source which tells us that June was being treated for depression at the time of her death, would it? Doctors don't usually divulge -patient confidentiality- and IF those three wounds had nothing to do with the massacre there'd be no reason for anything to be said about them.

Incidentally, it HAS been previously mentioned because it was I who mentioned it as a possibility.

[Adam]

That would be the same as the source which tells us that June was being treated for depression at the time of her death, would it? Doctors don't usually divulge -patient confidentiality- and IF those three wounds had nothing to do with the massacre there'd be no reason for anything to be said about them.

Incidentally, it HAS been previously mentioned because it was I who mentioned it as a possibility.

I don't know anything about those claims about June.

Everyone agrees with Bamber, after his Arizona tests that the burn marks were caused by a rifle end. Although Bamber will not agree with the certainty that he inflicted the marks. There is no way Sheila would do it. Thread already created.

However if there is a source that people can have three growths in the same location, and removing them causes scars that look just like a rifle burn, that would be very interesting.

[Jane]

I don't know anything about those claims about June.

Everyone agrees with Bamber, after his Arizona tests that the burn marks were caused by a rifle end. Although Bamber will not agree with the certainty that he inflicted the marks. There is no way Sheila would do it. Thread already created.

However if there is a source that people can have three growths in the same location, and removing them causes scars that look just like a rifle burn, that would be very interesting.

Well, to be fair to Jeremy, he's hardly going to say that he didn't inflict the burn marks because they'd occurred when Nevill had had moles/warts removed. I've had cause to see numerous patches of skin that have had "things" removed. I would guess that one burn, in the process of healing/not being freshly new, would look much like any other.

[maggie]

But it's very possible that a doctor/surgeon MAY have to remove small growths.

It is very possible Jane but I would query a doctor would remove a growth by burning it off.  I ma be wrong but I was under the impression such moles or growths were usually cut out.

[Jane]

It is very possible Jane but I would query a doctor would remove a growth by burning it off.  I ma be wrong but I was under the impression such moles or growths were usually cut out.

I've had one frozen off, Maggie. It caused a burn. I've sent 5 clients to their doctors over the years because of scalp areas which have troubled me. I've been right 4 times and they have been cut out under general anaesthetic. I don't believe the the 5th person took my advice.