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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3285 on: July 19, 2016, 08:23:PM »
An 'intimate mixture' of the 'Bamber parent bloods' could have got into the silencer at the time Sheila shot her parents...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3286 on: July 19, 2016, 08:26:PM »
The aga surround in the kitchen could have been scratched with use of or by the knurl of the silencers end cap, coming into direct contact with it during a struggle involving Ralph and Sheila...

There is no debris from the damage on the aga or carpet  8)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3287 on: July 19, 2016, 08:34:PM »
There is no debris from the damage on the aga or carpet  8)
was there no paint flakes on the floor near the aga

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3288 on: July 19, 2016, 08:36:PM »
There is no debris from the damage on the aga or carpet  8)
No but remember the Police were traipsing all round the house that morning and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that these paint residues were caught up on someone's shoe.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3289 on: July 19, 2016, 08:39:PM »
What appears to have happened which certainly stacked the odds against Jeremy Bamber ever receiving a fair trial involved a somewhat 'dishonest approach' in maintaining that the results obtained from the examination of the flake were unique and exclusive to Sheila Caffell...

But, it wasn't...

It was just as much unique to Sheila, as it was to June Bamber, it was perhaps more unique and exclusive to an 'intimate mixture' of the parent bloods', and 'not' exclusive to Sheila as was originally presented....
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3290 on: July 19, 2016, 08:43:PM »
No but remember the Police were traipsing all round the house that morning and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that these paint residues were caught up on someone's shoe.
yes i agree steve. their werent looking for it

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3291 on: July 19, 2016, 09:04:PM »
Bamber was 'ambushed' during his trial by the introduction of the blood / paint contaminated silencer, with the rider that the blood was unique and exclusive to Sheila, when of course it was not. This enabled the prosecution to rely on an argument that Sheila could not have shot herself and had been murdered, because when the rifle was found on Sheila's body it did not have the silencer in question, or any silencer for that matter, attached to its barrel. The murderer, her murderer, had removed the silencer after killing her, and had taken it away to a different part of the farmhouse and concealed it...

But, for the fact that two lots of animal bloods' had been confirmed to be present inside the silencer, and the rather huge potential for the 'AK/1' blood type originating from one or more of these animals having intimately merged with the blood of the parents, it would have made for a clinical analysis proving that Sheila had been murdered, and had not committed suicide. But, but, but...

We now know that the blood from the flake was 'not' unique or 'exclusive' to Sheila...

She 'could have killed herself', on that footing...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3292 on: July 19, 2016, 09:08:PM »
Bamber was 'ambushed' during his trial by the introduction of the blood / paint contaminated silencer, with the rider that the blood was unique and exclusive to Sheila, when of course it was not. This enabled the prosecution to rely on an argument that Sheila could not have shot herself and had been murdered, because when the rifle was found on Sheila's body it did not have the silencer in question, or any silencer for that matter, attached to its barrel. The murderer, her murderer, had removed the silencer after killing her, and had taken it away to a different part of the farmhouse and concealed it...

But, for the fact that two lots of animal bloods' had been confirmed to be present inside the silencer, and the rather huge potential for the 'AK/1' blood type originating from one or more of these animals having intimately merged with the blood of the parents, it would have made for a clinical analysis proving that Sheila had been murdered, and had not committed suicide. But, but, but...

We now know that the blood from the flake was 'not' unique or 'exclusive' to Sheila...

She 'could have killed herself', on that footing...
You're relying on her either shooting everyone (with silencer attached), returning the silencer to the gun cupboard and then shooting herself, or being a contortionist and shooting herself with silencer and an unknown removing it, or the silencer not used at all and planted by relatives post murders.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3293 on: July 19, 2016, 09:12:PM »
You're relying on her either shooting everyone (with silencer attached), returning the silencer to the gun cupboard and then shooting herself, or being a contortionist and shooting herself with silencer and an unknown removing it, or the silencer not used at all and planted by relatives post murders.
steve the cupboard where the silencer was found.is it in the kitchen where the bullets were on the worktop

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3294 on: July 19, 2016, 09:25:PM »
steve the cupboard where the silencer was found.is it in the kitchen where the bullets were on the worktop
It was in the den which I think was part of Nevill's new office-members will correct me if I've got this wrong.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3295 on: July 19, 2016, 10:24:PM »
Bamber was 'ambushed' during his trial by the introduction of the blood / paint contaminated silencer, with the rider that the blood was unique and exclusive to Sheila, when of course it was not. This enabled the prosecution to rely on an argument that Sheila could not have shot herself and had been murdered, because when the rifle was found on Sheila's body it did not have the silencer in question, or any silencer for that matter, attached to its barrel. The murderer, her murderer, had removed the silencer after killing her, and had taken it away to a different part of the farmhouse and concealed it...

But, for the fact that two lots of animal bloods' had been confirmed to be present inside the silencer, and the rather huge potential for the 'AK/1' blood type originating from one or more of these animals having intimately merged with the blood of the parents, it would have made for a clinical analysis proving that Sheila had been murdered, and had not committed suicide. But, but, but...

We now know that the blood from the flake was 'not' unique or 'exclusive' to Sheila...

She 'could have killed herself', on that footing...

However, if the truth be known, she was 'unlawfully killed'...


« Last Edit: July 19, 2016, 10:26:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3296 on: July 19, 2016, 10:32:PM »
The same tactics used in the 'Hillsboro' cover up (after 15th April, 1989), were adopted in the ' Bamber case cover up' (after 7th August, 1985) - blame was to be apportioned onto 'innocent parties'. You must ask yourselves with the benefit of hindsight, 'could the police rely upon such tactics, to enable them to cover up what had actually taken place?

The answer, is a resounding, 'Yes'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3297 on: July 19, 2016, 10:38:PM »
Did Jeremy Bamber kill five members of his family, in a plot to lay his hands upon his adoptive parents estate?

No, he did not...

How can I be so sure that Jeremy Bamber is not a mass murderer?

Basically put, he is much 'too thick' for anyone to suggest he 'almost got away' with the perfect murders. The truth of the matter, is that he didn't, he couldn't, and he wouldn't...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3298 on: July 19, 2016, 10:49:PM »
I have lived with murderers, terrorists, and basically put, with criminals reviled by the general public, and chummy Bamber, ain't clever enough to have attempted to get away with what he is accused of having done. He is, or should I say was, too thick to even be in a position to try to get away with what he had been accused of having carried out. He did not kill anyone, he was not the killer of Ralph, he was not the killer of June, he was not the killer of Sheila, and he was not the killer of his nephews, Daniel and Nicholas...

But, they made him into the unwitting shooter...

Just like South Yorkshire police, tried to blame 'Liverpool fans', for the 'disaster', Essex police targeted Jeremy as being the killer...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3299 on: July 19, 2016, 11:25:PM »
Cops who shot and killed Sheila, have effectively waived their right to a reliance upon 'self-defence' because of the cop cover up...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...