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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3255 on: July 13, 2016, 11:44:AM »
Cops xxx xxx xx relatives conspired, and Bamber was 80% convicted even before any evidence was given during his trial, because when you are a defendant in the dock, you are treated as being 'guilty', and it is up to you, and those representing you to prove your innocence, anybody who says anything different does not know what they are talking about...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3256 on: July 13, 2016, 11:47:AM »
Cops fucked up, relatives conspired, and Bamber was 80% convicted even before any evidence was given during his trial, because when you are a defendant in the dock, you are treated as being 'guilty', and it is up to you, and those representing you to prove your innocence, anybody who says anything different does not know what they are talking about...

I have been the victim of many miscarriages of justice, I have been in the dock, and the truth of the matter is that a jury will always think there must be some truth in why you are being tried. Juries don't think cops fabricate evidence, and that prosecution witnesses can tell lies, or that the defendant will admit to what he / she has done, etc, etc...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3257 on: July 13, 2016, 01:10:PM »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3258 on: July 13, 2016, 01:54:PM »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3259 on: July 13, 2016, 06:55:PM »
That is wrong.

No one knows when Bamber put the scatch marks on the bathroom window with his hack saw. Just that it was definately Bamber who did this.

Bamber makes the ridiculous suggestion he made them after the massacre to get inside.  Quite why he could not get front door keys for his own property, no one knows. Telephones did exist in 1985.

The judge suggested Bamber used his hack saw prior to the massacre to ensure a quiet and easy access on the night.

Bamber made the scratch marks on the window weeks after the shooting, whilst he was under surveillance by the drugs squad...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3260 on: July 13, 2016, 06:57:PM »
Bamber made the scratch marks on the window weeks after the shooting, whilst he was under surveillance by the drugs squad...

Why were the drugs squad following Bamber Mike ?

Is it poppygate ?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3261 on: July 13, 2016, 07:30:PM »
Why were the drugs squad following Bamber Mike ?

Is it poppygate ?

A neighbour of his at Head Street, Goldhanger, reported the fact that Jeremy was growing Opium poppies, in his back garden. Neighbour took photographs and gave these to the cops, which resulted in Jeremy being under surveillance by the drugs squad. He was followed back to white house farm on one occasion and they observed him using a piece of broken hacksaw blade to open the window catch - which left the scratch marks, on the frame that were found later on...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3262 on: July 13, 2016, 07:46:PM »
The Bambers had a license to grow opium poppies on the land they farmed, but this license did not extend to the garden of Jeremy's cottage in Head Street, Goldhanger...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3263 on: July 13, 2016, 07:53:PM »
Bit strong isn't it. Putting a minor alleged opium grower under surveillance.

A bit of luck Bamber finding a hack saw by the bathroom window and letting himself into WHF. Otherwise it would have been a wasted journey for him. I thought he just needed a penknife to gain access ?

A bit of luck the surveillance team saw him find the hack saw and let himself in as well.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3264 on: July 13, 2016, 09:18:PM »
Bit strong isn't it. Putting a minor alleged opium grower under surveillance.

A bit of luck Bamber finding a hack saw by the bathroom window and letting himself into WHF. Otherwise it would have been a wasted journey for him. I thought he just needed a penknife to gain access ?

A bit of luck the surveillance team saw him find the hack saw and let himself in as well.
a member has said no license to grow opium .but to grow hemp

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3265 on: July 13, 2016, 09:55:PM »
Bit strong isn't it. Putting a minor alleged opium grower under surveillance.

A bit of luck Bamber finding a hack saw by the bathroom window and letting himself into WHF. Otherwise it would have been a wasted journey for him. I thought he just needed a penknife to gain access ?

A bit of luck the surveillance team saw him find the hack saw and let himself in as well.
a member has said no license to grow opium .but to grow hemp

I'm not 100% sure that they grew hemp but neither am I convinced that they grew opium poppies. To be honest, I don't think their crops had anything to do with the murders so it's just a distraction.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3266 on: July 13, 2016, 10:09:PM »
I'm not 100% sure that they grew hemp but neither am I convinced that they grew opium poppies. To be honest, I don't think their crops had anything to do with the murders so it's just a distraction.
iam sure ive read somewhere that one of the doctors asked a top police officer if he knew of a license to grow poppys when he saw jb return from the field

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3267 on: July 14, 2016, 07:21:AM »
Bit strong isn't it. Putting a minor alleged opium grower under surveillance.

A bit of luck Bamber finding a hack saw by the bathroom window and letting himself into WHF. Otherwise it would have been a wasted journey for him. I thought he just needed a penknife to gain access ?

A bit of luck the surveillance team saw him find the hack saw and let himself in as well.

Bit of luck that the prosecution used the expert opinion of 'Elliot' regarding the scratch marks on the window, which were created 'after' the killings...

Think, before you open your gob...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3268 on: July 14, 2016, 07:24:AM »
Bit of luck, that although 'red paint' was supposedly present on the end of one of the silencers found on the 10th August, 1985, that it should take until the 2nd October, 1985, for expert opinion to be gathered linking the red paint of the aga surround, to one, or two of the silencers?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3269 on: July 14, 2016, 07:36:AM »
Bit of luck, that although 'red paint' was supposedly present on the end of one of the silencers found on the 10th August, 1985, that it should take until the 2nd October, 1985, for expert opinion to be gathered linking the red paint of the aga surround, to one, or two of the silencers?

Lets go the whole hog, red paint from the aga surround, upon silencer SBJ/1, red paint from the aga surround on the silencer marked, SJ/1, red paint from the aga surround on the silencer marked, DB/1, and finally, red paint from the aga surround on the silencer marked, DRB/1?

That's an awful lot of different silencers (SBJ/1, SJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1) fitted to the only weapon used in the shootings...

You forgot to take into account that whilst one, or more of these different silencers had already been submitted to the Lab' at Huntingdon Forensic Science Laboratory (30th August, 1985), that 'THE RELATIVES' (11th September, 1985) and 'ESSEX POLICE' still had possession of at least a second silencer (until the 20th September, 1985)...

Don't try to fuck with me, or anybody else, by making up utter nonsense...

The bad apple cops, and the bad apple relatives, could not possibly still have had possession or access to a silencer, which had already been recieved by the cops, and already submitted to the lab' for examination by the 30th August, 1985, by the 11th September, 1985, onward...

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