What makes Bamber innocent?

[sami]

I don't believe for one second that that is Sheila's foot. It's too old and too small.

no way is it.its been photo shoped her foot was never on top of any green carpet or blanket.when photos were taken

[mike tesko]

You mean you believe Tesko when he claims he has a photo of Sheila on the bed with a single gunshot wound to her throat?

Listen xxxxx, you do not know what I've had access to, or what I have got in my possession. Sheila and Junes bodies were originally on the bed together, with the rifle on the bed between them. June on top of the bed on 'her side', and Sheila on top of the bed on her dad's side,. Sheila had a bible on her chest. I haven't yet seen this image that cops captured on the crime scene video, but I have seen the photograph of Sheila on her dads side of the bed in an abused posture. No bible on her chest, no gun, only a solitary wound on her neck, so shut your gob you don't know what your talking about. Cops took abusive images of the victims as some sort of sick momento's. Those same vile sicko monster cops wouldn't like to have to admit that they abused the bodies of the deceased and a still alive victim (Sheila). Don't try to blame me for making something as sick as that up. Have a word with Annie Eaton, she can confirm that a cop she refuses to name through fear of the case having to be re-opened because cops have tampered with the bodies of the victims. DC Clarke and DS Jones saw Sheila's body and Junes body on the bed, the gun in the bed between them, the bible on Sheila' chest with her laid there on the bed. Ann Eaton even mentions this in one or more versions of her statements, and when she was cross examined during the trial, so confirmed to Rivlin QC that a cop had told her that Ralph's body had been found in the kitchen by the coal scuttle, and that Sheila's and Junes bodies found on the bed with the rifle on the bed between them both, and a bible at that time on Sheila's chest...

Those are the 'Facts', which were in evidence at about and by 9 O'clock that morning. Within an hour, both of the bodies had been put onto the bedroom floor either side of the bed where their respective bodies had been resting insitu...

Which part don't you understand?

[lookout]

Conversely, whilst I'm not as old as you, the skin on the back of my heels looks very much like that.

You must be shrinking.

[Jane]

You must be shrinking.

Please God

[Caroline]

no way is it.its been photo shoped her foot was never on top of any green carpet or blanket.when photos were taken

Think it might have been taken at the mortuary Sami - but it's still not Sheila's foot.

[mike tesko]

None of which helps Jeremy Bamber in any way but carry on pontificating and spouting crap!

Xxxxx

Can you read, xxxxx?

[lookout]

You only have her word on that one.

Well it was in her COLP statement,so everyone had her word.?

[mike tesko]

Cops who went to Jeremy's cottage were DC Clark and DS Jones, one of these two bent coppers, or both, told Annie Eaton what they had seen with their own two eyes at the scene, they having both entered the various rooms in the farmhouse where bodies were laid out before they left the farmhouse and went with Jeremy to his cottage at just after 9 am...

Sheila's and Junes bodies on the bed, as stated in Annie Eaton's witness statement, 8th September, 1985, but by 10am that same morning, unbeknown to Clark and Jones, the bodies of Sheila and Junes bodies had been moved to the bedroom floor either side of the bed, and captured in photographs taken by PC Bird...

Job integrity 'blown wide open', convictions can't stand on this basis - cops staged bodies of victims, then took photographs of staged bodies insitu, and blamed Jeremy for having done what the cops themselves had done.

There was a sex abuse feature associated with the cover up by these bad apple cops, a xxxxxxxxxxxcxxccx whose members were bad apple cops...

[lookout]

Think it might have been taken at the mortuary Sami - but it's still not Sheila's foot.

Would you be willing to ask the one responsible for putting it in the newspaper ?

[Caroline]

June was plastered in blood from head to toe. That foot doesn't show blood which ran down her body or it would have been left saturated. Let's not forget that Junes injuries were greater from bullet wounds than that of her husband's.
As for the toenails,why wouldn't the rest of her foot be blood-soaked and not just her toenails ? That pic shows a foot with nail varnish,something that I doubt June would have worn.

You can't say that is nail varnish but looking at the pictures Mike posted, if after death you take on a wrinkled elderly appearance (which I don't believe for one second), how come Sheila's hand is still youthful? Or does this ageing process only affect feet? 

Her feet would have been covered in blood, she was shot in the leg and walked around the bed. Gravity makes blood flow downwards. However, look at the picture below, there is something dark on her toe (hey, that rhymes!). It certainly looks more like the foot that is claimed to be Sheila's! I have posted a picture of Sheila's SMOOTH foot for comparison.

[Caroline]

Would you be willing to ask the one responsible for putting it in the newspaper ?

Of course! Look at the two pictures above Lookout, look at the way the big toe sits and tell me you don't think it's June's foot?

[mike tesko]

ANN EATON (witness statement, 8th September, 1985), trial testimony, cross examination by Rivlin, QC:-

Rivlin - 'you made statements to the police officers, did you not, in this case, and I would like you to to look, please, at a statement which is dated 8th September 1985. (Same handed). Your signature appears on this document. Is it a type written document? Does it bear your signature'? A - 'no'.

Rivlin - 'I am told the original is outside'.

Arledge - 'I will have it checked with the original'.

Rivlin - 'Do you see that'? The third paragraph. Does it read as follows: 'One of the officers told me that uncle Neville Bamber was in the kitchen near the coal scuttle. The twins were in their bed, shot, Aunt June and Sheila Bamber were both on the bed, shot, with Sheila Bamber having a bible on her chest with the gun beside her'. A 'yes'.

Rivlin - Does that help you to remember, Mrs Eaton? You did say that to the police? A 'yes, I must have done, because its written down here. I can remember the policeman telling me uncle Neville was beside the coal scuttle, the twins were in their beds, shot, auntie June and Sheila were on the bed with the gun between them, and I asked how they were shot, and he went like this. I do not know who told me...

[lookout]

Of course! Look at the two pictures above Lookout, look at the way the big toe sits and tell you you don't think it's June's foot?

The top pic is obviously June's because of the size of the foot and of course the amount of blood on it compared with Sheila's. But---------the pic " allegedly/arguably " of Sheila's only shows a mainly underneath shot,but at the same time,a foot which plainly shows nail varnish and is longer that what you think is Junes,also judging by the arch gives the impression of it being smaller.
The pics of Sheila's feet are over-emphasised to make them look much longer than what they are as the toes look more like fingers.
Sheila's toes will naturally appear scrunched up on account of her wearing high-heeled shoes where her feet would have eventually moulded to the shape of pointed toed shoes.

[lookout]

Far too much " hearsay " in this case. Where would everyone have been without it ? Up the creek !!

[mike tesko]

All merely hearsay.   Ann had no reason to repeat other than what she heard or thought she heard.  She was never in the farmhouse prior to the removal of the deceased.  None of this has any relevance to Bamber's guilt.

It was also recorded in several tabloids that Sheila' body was found on the bed, and in addition at least three cops and the police surgeon Craig placed Sheila's body 'on the far side of the bed', comments which are recorded in their witness statements and notebook entries, which is 'not hearsay', but bona fide Evidence'...