What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

There are clues contained in the 'disclosed' version of the C1 form which will point Bambers legal team, and the CCRC in the right direction...

[mike tesko]

There are clues contained in the 'disclosed' version of the C1 form which will point Bambers legal team, and the CCRC in the right direction...

(1) - wrong hand writing on the disclosed 'C1' form
(2) -  no name and no signature of person who wrote out contents above
(3) -  document was checked by PS 40, G. White
(4) -  serial No. 6, on log, unlikely to have been sixth call dealt with at 3.36am, since 6pm previous evening

[mike tesko]

It is now all falling into place, and by that I am referring to why PC West created confusion during the trial regarding the timing of Jeremy's call (3.36 am or 3.26am)?  Jeremy had not spoken to PC West at all, he had spoken to someone else. PC West had spoken to Ralph Bamber  10 minutes before Jeremy called the cops at 3.36am. PC West was pretending it had been him who Jeremy had called that morning, but it wasn't him. What PC West had done in the interim period between the actual timing of Jeremy's 3.36am call to 'another', and the 13th September, 1985, (with Jeremy now under arrest for the first time)  when PC West, created a blow by blow account of what Jeremy had actually spoken about during his call to 'another', was that PC West had 'listened to the audio recording' of Jeremy's distress call, and West had substituted himself for the 'another' who had actually taken and dealt with Jeremy's call. By the time the matter came to Crown Court the 'substituted' C1 form had been forged to give the impression that it had indeed been PC West who had taken Jeremy's 3.36am call, and recorded it...

But...

The problem with that is that the content of the forge 'C1' form, is 'not' written out by PC West himself, somebody else has forged the contents of the 'disclosed' C1 form, and 'PS 40 G. White', knows the identity of that person. So does, 'PC West', and 'Malcolm Bonnett'...

[mike tesko]

PC West didn't know what to say during the trial when Rivlin QC took him to task about the discrepancies in the 'disclosed' C1 form, compared to the verbatim content of his 13th September, 1985, witness statement?

It now becomes apparent why...

[sami]

It is now all falling into place, and by that I am referring to why PC West created confusion during the trial regarding the timing of Jeremy's call (3.36 am or 3.26am)?  Jeremy had not spoken to PC West at all, he had spoken to someone else. PC West had spoken to Ralph Bamber  10 minutes before Jeremy called the cops at 3.36am. PC West was pretending it had been him who Jeremy had called that morning, but it wasn't him. What PC West had done in the interim period between the actual timing of Jeremy's 3.36am call to 'another', and the 13th September, 1985, (with Jeremy now under arrest for the first time)  when PC West, created a blow by blow account of what Jeremy had actually spoken about during his call to 'another', was that PC West had 'listened to the audio recording' of Jeremy's distress call, and West had substituted himself for the 'another' who had actually taken and dealt with Jeremy's call. By the time the matter came to Crown Court the 'substituted' C1 form had been forged to give the impression that it had indeed been PC West who had taken Jeremy's 3.36am call, and recorded it...

But...

The problem with that is that the content of the forge 'C1' form, is 'not' written out by PC West himself, somebody else has forged the contents of the 'disclosed' C1 form, and 'PS 40 G. White', knows the identity of that person. So does, 'PC West', and 'Malcolm Bonnett'...

will they reveal who it is,mike

[mike tesko]

It also becomes apparent that the 'original hand written witness statement', to which Rivlin QC was referring was 'not made available to the defence during the trial, otherwise somebody of Rivlins stature and reputation would have taken PC West to task regarding the content of the 'disclosed'  C1 form contents having been made out in somebody else's hand writing, and not his own...

[mike tesko]

will they reveal who it is,mike

I should think it sufficient for the purposes of the CCRC and the court of appeal, they might have to, but in any event the content of the 'disclosed' C1 form, was certainly not written out by PC West, and he is on record as stating that it was him who made 'that' log...

I am not an expert, but even somebody with a very low IQ like me can tell that somebody else has 'forged the contents' of the 'disclosed' C1 form attributable to PC West...

[sami]

I should think it sufficient for the purposes of the CCRC and the court of appeal, they might have to, but in any event the content of the 'disclosed' C1 form, was certainly not written out by PC West, and he is on record as stating that it was him who made 'that' log...

I am not an expert, but even somebody with a very low IQ like me can tell that somebody else has 'forged the contents' of the 'disclosed' C1 form attributable to PC West...

sounds like perjury by west

[mike tesko]

sounds like perjury by west

Sounds like a 'Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice', by PC West, PS 40 G. White, and Malcolm Bonnet, and others (yet to be determined)...

[mike tesko]

It should also not be forgotten, that whilst being cross examined by Rivlin QC in the witness box at trial, that Rivlin tried to take him to task over the 'actual timing' of Jeremy's telephone call to him that particular morning. West was at pains to accept that he recorded the time of Jeremy's call at 3.36am, but West added that he must have read the timing wrong, because Malcolm Bonnet had said he (West) had contacted him (Bonnet) at 3.26am...

However, in the cold light of day, and with the benefit of hindsight, we now know that 'PC West' had not written out the content of the 'disclosed' C1 form, despite his insistence during the trial and since, that he did...

[mike tesko]

This 'fresh evidence' now puts paid to the argument that the two differently timed phone logs (3.26am, and 3.36am) related to the same telephone call made by Jeremy to the cops that morning, or in other words the claim by some that there had only ever been just the one phone call, and Jeremy had made it. That argument can no longer be a valid one, because it was presented on the basis that both PC West (3.26am) and Malcolm Bonnet (3.26am) had created separate logs pertaining to the same call. But we now find that PC West did 'not' make the 'disclosed 3.36am (C1) log, some as yet unidentified 'other person', had...

[sami]

i think the ct team should ask colin stagg to join them.i say this because 90% of the public thought he was guilty because of the way police potrayed him .and we now all know he was innocent all along. i myself was 100% sure he was the killer

[JackiePreece]

Yeah that will be it 

I was just being modest actually 

[Jane]

Use that rhetoric on your own changing views once you come into possession of new information, or fresh evidence. Your attempt to turn me into the fool that I am, has thus backfired upon yourself. I am still the same fool I always ever was, but you have just exposed yourself as one. Having said that, always bear in mind the old saying - 'A fool may have the audience of kings'...

Mike, I have no power to turn ANY other into a fool. I leave them to do it for themselves if they wish. As for my own CHANGED views. They came about partly because things were stated which were so highly improbable that it caused me to believe my intelligence was being insulted. HOWEVER, should valid and PROVED evidence come to light I'll be happy to concede.

[mike tesko]

Mike, I have no power to turn ANY other into a fool. I leave them to do it for themselves if they wish. As for my own CHANGED views. They came about partly because things were stated which were so highly improbable that it caused me to believe my intelligence was being insulted. HOWEVER, should valid and PROVED evidence come to light I'll be happy to concede.

Tell you what luv', here is the phone log 'PC West' said he recorded from 3.36am, onward, and just because I am taking pity on a fellow fool like me, I am throwing in the 10 pages of PC Wests, 13th September 1985, 'hand written witness statement for your opinion, as to whether or not the phone log 'C1 form' was written up by him as he claimed?