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Offline lookout

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1995 on: May 30, 2016, 04:47:PM »
Nice.  Did you watch Baywatch?




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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1996 on: May 30, 2016, 05:38:PM »




Yes Jackie,something tells me he's okay---------just misguided, :)) :)) :)) :))

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1997 on: May 30, 2016, 05:39:PM »
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Vanezis Autopsy note and Rivlins examination

Rivlin - I am asking you about the staining, and I am asking you whether it occurred to you then, or if it didn't then whether it occurs to you now, that this staining which appears on that nightdress may have been caused by directly pressing blood-stained fingers against the cloth?
Vanezis - Yes, I mean of course it is an obvious position

Rivlin - It is an obvious position and it assumes that obvious appearance doesn't it?
Vanezis. That is right yes.

COA paragraph  517.

However, whilst Mr Ismail rightly recorded the evidence of Dr Vanezis, Mr Turner was able to point to a note made by Dr Vanezis at the time of the post-mortem examination that read:

"bloodstained palm prints on nightdress matches bloodstains appeared to have transferred from R hand. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZQhFnCFdUw
what is R hand.also youre given this answer in triplicate posts

Offline Caroline

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1998 on: May 30, 2016, 07:28:PM »
what is R hand.also youre given this answer in triplicate posts

Right hand
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Offline Caroline

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1999 on: May 30, 2016, 07:29:PM »



Was every casing examined ? Didn't Sheila put clothes in soak ? Yes,the water would have washed off the blood. However,particles of GSR were found,but that was blamed on the handling of kitchen utensils.Yeah !

Someone put the clothes in the buckets but there is NO evidence that that someone was Sheila.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2000 on: May 30, 2016, 07:33:PM »
We won't hear from him now for a while Lookout if he thinks there's a chance he might have to open his wallet hahaha.

Next time we want shot we'll just tell him its his round....whoosh....gone  :)) :)) :))

I don't think it will be the thought of opening his wallet that will send him into hiding.  ::)
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2001 on: May 30, 2016, 08:16:PM »
I don't think it will be the thought of opening his wallet that will send him into hiding.  ::)

It will be the thought of my prowess on horseback  8)
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2002 on: May 30, 2016, 09:32:PM »
It will be the thought of my prowess on horseback  8)

Yeah that will be it  ::)
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Offline sami

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2003 on: May 30, 2016, 09:39:PM »
i think the public lost interest in jb.how long has it been now,and nothing has been in the press or tv.it happens they just dont give a toss anymore.for that reason i doubt if jb will ever be released

Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2004 on: May 30, 2016, 09:51:PM »
Exactly as I stated, there was no blood on Sheila Caffell's inner hand or fingers associated with any criminal activity.  The only blood on her hands was on the back having come into contact with her bloodied nightdress.

NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to sustain any claim that Sheila Caffell wielded the rifle.

Glad we could clear that up before lookout got too excited!   :))

Stop having yourself on, the blood got onto the top part of Sheila's hand whilst she was ' trying to throttle' her mother. Look, anybody can replicate what Sheila did to June, and get the same or similar marks on the top of the right hand, depending of course upon there being blood on the neck, similar to that which was present on June Bambers throat when Sheila grabbed her. Providing there is a supply of fresh blood higher up on the neck above where your hand gets positioned, the blood will automatically run or transfer onto the top part of your hand, just as it did with Sheila's hand. There are experts in blood staining and I am convinced that he or she will conclude that Sheila had indeed tried to throttle her mother, at a time when for one reason or another, the loaded anshuzt rifle was 'not availabe' to Sheila for her to shoot her mother at 'that' moment. Sheila had then subsequently wiped her hand on the front of her nightdress. As to how long afterwards, did Sheila take up possession of the rifle again, is any bodies guess, but she did handle the rifle after trying to strangle her mother. We know she did because I can't see Sheila trying to throttle her mother who would have been shot a total of 7 times in that scenario, once between the eyes. No, June was attacked by hand before she got finished off, and I believe that Sheila shot her two boys after trying to strangle her mother, then Sheila returned to her mother and finished her off. Then at about 7.15am, Sheila was persuaded to show the rifle in her possession as a gesture of goodwill because cops were wanting to gain access for the ambulance and its crew. Sheila appeared to be cooperating in this regard because she placed the said rifle at an upstairs window, then she made her way downstairs intending to unlock the back door, but armed cops smashed the door down, and were trying to force their way into the kitchen, which infuriated her because cops had convinced her that she could trust them. She grabbed the barrel of the cop gun as it appeared around the outside edge of the inner kitchen door and there was nothing PS Woodcock do do about it because at that time the muzzle of his gun was always pointing toward the outer wall of the kitchen, until he got around the edge of the door. However, at the precise moment that Woodcock thought he was about to reach that point,, the muzzle of his gun was pointing in the general direction of Sheila. But she made a sudden movement by trying to yank the gun out of his possession, which caused the weapon to discharge a solitary shot across Sheila's neck...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2005 on: May 30, 2016, 10:10:PM »
when jb came out of that field after been told his family was dead,he remarked to the doctor that the farm had a license to grow poppy for pharmaceutical company.the doc thought that strange and asked a senior officer ,if he knew of any such license,so he was suspicious about something

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2006 on: May 30, 2016, 10:10:PM »
I think this another case for Dr. Herbert Leon MacDonnell..

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2007 on: May 30, 2016, 10:19:PM »
I think this another case for Dr. Herbert Leon MacDonnell..
steve is they another a chinese american dr chan i think .would be good if he could cast his eyes on the photos in this case.it could tell us lots

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2008 on: May 30, 2016, 10:22:PM »
Stop having yourself on, the blood got onto the top part of Sheila's hand whilst she was ' trying to throttle' her mother. Look, anybody can replicate what Sheila did to June, and get the same or similar marks on the top of the right hand, depending of course upon there being blood on the neck, similar to that which was present on June Bambers throat when Sheila grabbed her. Providing there is a supply of fresh blood higher up on the neck above where your hand gets positioned, the blood will automatically run or transfer onto the top part of your hand, just as it did with Sheila's hand. There are experts in blood staining and I am convinced that he or she will conclude that Sheila had indeed tried to throttle her mother, at a time when for one reason or another, the loaded anshuzt rifle was 'not availabe' to Sheila for her to shoot her mother at 'that' moment. Sheila had then subsequently wiped her hand on the front of her nightdress. As to how long afterwards, did Sheila take up possession of the rifle again, is any bodies guess, but she did handle the rifle after trying to strangle her mother. We know she did because I can't see Sheila trying to throttle her mother who would have been shot a total of 7 times in that scenario, once between the eyes. No, June was attacked by hand before she got finished off, and I believe that Sheila shot her two boys after trying to strangle her mother, then Sheila returned to her mother and finished her off. Then at about 7.15am, Sheila was persuaded to show the rifle in her possession as a gesture of goodwill because cops were wanting to gain access for the ambulance and its crew. Sheila appeared to be cooperating in this regard because she placed the said rifle at an upstairs window, then she made her way downstairs intending to unlock the back door, but armed cops smashed the door down, and were trying to force their way into the kitchen, which infuriated her because cops had convinced her that she could trust them. She grabbed the barrel of the cop gun as it appeared around the outside edge of the inner kitchen door and there was nothing PS Woodcock do do about it because at that time the muzzle of his gun was always pointing toward the outer wall of the kitchen, until he got around the edge of the door. However, at the precise moment that Woodcock thought he was about to reach that point,, the muzzle of his gun was pointing in the general direction of Sheila. But she made a sudden movement by trying to yank the gun out of his possession, which caused the weapon to discharge a solitary shot across Sheila's neck...

Don't post such ridiculous nonsense.  Are you drunk?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2009 on: May 30, 2016, 10:23:PM »
I think this another case for Dr. Herbert Leon MacDonnell..

Herbert Leon MacDonnell was under the impression that Sheila's hand,s, and her feet were spotlessly clean, but we now know that wasn't true. Sheila had blood on the top part of her right hand, and spits of blood upon the sole of one of her feet. Whoever gets the task of trying to confirm or disprove where those marks on the top part of Sheila's right hand were caused when Sheila had tried to throttle her mother, it will hopefully put to bed the claims that Sheila could not have been culpable, once and for all...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...