What makes Bamber innocent?

[sami]

xxxx xxx, you part...

now now mike theres no need for that

[sami]

No, don't you dare pull that stroke on here. He wasn't 'in on it too'...

That's where you are wrong. You ain't going to be allowed to 'introduce that stroke here', because he wasn't in on it, as you 'mockingly are trying to suggest'. Your attempt to 'trick' the general public at large will not be allowed to go 'unchallenged' on this forum. Why do you say, 'that he must be in on it', as well? Stop talking 'rubbish'. He didn't have to be in on it, as suggested by you. He was 'used'...

He examined 25 spent cartridge casings which had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, and 'fired', then 'extracted' and 'ejected' from it. But he would conclude that this was true because all 25 bullet casings had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, fired and extracted, then ejected from that gun, only 14 of them, did not go through that process until a month or so, 'after' the shootings. What Pryor failed to do, was carry out any sort of examination, confirming that all 25 spent cartridge casings that were subject of his examination, that proved 'an association' between all the casings, and all the bullets. Different ammunition manufacturers use different formula's to prime the rounds they manufacture, and the machines used in the manufacturing process, impose a different set of 'crimping marks' where the bullet and the primed cartridge are fixed together...

Tell you what...

Examination of the 14 bullet casings that are still held at the lab', have an 'intriging' part to play, in 'unravelling' the truth in this matter...

Ask yourself, why did the ballistic expert seek to 'retain' 14 spent bullet casings (MDF/100) that had 'not been fired' via the anshuzt rifle?

mike the only stroke here will be the one you get.calm down,its just a debate

[mike tesko]

Thank-you Mike. I'd like to wish you a very happy Bank Holiday. 

Listen, stop trying to take the piss. Your garbage attitude won't wash with me. I have drawn your attention to these 14 bullet cases (MDF/100), and told you and everybody else, that these were loaded into the magazines of the Bruno rifle at the time of the shootings. I have pointed it out to you and to everybody else, that there has been a 'test firing' of the anshuzt rifle, prior to the 20th September, 1985, which is 'the date' Fletcher claims he started to officially test fire control ammunition via the anshuzt rifle. It is a perfect good example, explaining from where these 14 mysterious bullet casings 'originated from'. Now which part do you not understand?

[mike tesko]

Fletcher knows the truth. He knows that more than one weapon was used in the shootings. He knows that bullet casings that had been loaded and fired in the Bruno rifle, were 'swapped over' with 14 bullet cases test fired in the anshuzt rifle afterwards. This is not some far fetched idea, there is substance in the claim, there exists 14 bullet cases at the lab' under the identifying mark MDF/100...

[sami]

Fletcher knows the truth. He knows that more than one weapon was used in the shootings. He knows that bullet casings that had been loaded and fired in the Bruno rifle, were 'swapped over' with 14 bullet cases test fired in the anshuzt rifle afterwards. This is not some far fetched idea, there is substance in the claim, there exists 14 bullet cases at the lab' under the identifying mark MDF/100...

will fletcher stand up in court and admit that.cause if not how will we ever be able to prove this opinion of your

[Steve_uk]

Jeremy Bamber, is not a monster...

Why, then, did I volunteer to spend 6 hours locked in the same cell as Jeremy, over 'Christmas day' on the 25th December, 1989? Locked in the same cell, on Christmas day of 'that'' particular, year?

He was trying to fit in somewhere, some space, whether it was White House Farm, Gresham's School or Gartree Prison. Always trying, from the earliest days when he would emulate this strange older man in his choice of breakfast food, before he was sent away on a fool's errand, trying to keep up with his father in farming, trying to understand June's wavelength, attempting to comprehend Sheila. Only when he realized he couldn't do any of these things did the practical jokes start, as he realized it was all a charade..

[Steve_uk]

..eight wasted years, a failed scuba diving course, a dead end job at Little Chef, a failed relationship with Suzette. Julie I think he used from the outset to sound out for murder, to sell cannabis on the campus, to rob the caravan park, all the means to unlock money for which motive there was no moral distinction between any of these activities.

[lookout]

Sheila's " pedigree " didn't fare much better,Steve.

[Steve_uk]

Sheila's " pedigree " didn't fare much better,Steve.

Not for much of the above criteria lookout, apart from the money motive.

[JackiePreece]

He was trying to fit in somewhere, some space, whether it was White House Farm, Gresham's School or Gartree Prison. Always trying, from the earliest days when he would emulate this strange older man in his choice of breakfast food, before he was sent away on a fool's errand, trying to keep up with his father in farming, trying to understand June's wavelength, attempting to comprehend Sheila. Only when he realized he couldn't do any of these things did the practical jokes start, as he realized it was all a charade..

Could easily apply to Prince Charles if you substituted the practical jokes with talking to plants 

[John]

I am afraid you are significantly wrong, since (a) none of the volunteers fired the rifle after loading any of the bullets (whereas, Sheila did) and (b) all the volunteers loaded significantly more rounds into the magazine during the tests they conducted (than Sheila would have handled through the necessity to reload), and (c) none of the volunteers wiped the key fingers of the hand they had used to load rounds into the ammunition magazine, upon an item of their own clothing (which in Sheila's case was the front lower right part of her blue nightie)...

Failure by any of the volunteers at (a) removed the risk of contamination that had got onto their fingers during the loading process being systematically 'wiped' each time they had activated the trigger mechanism by a process of repeated friction between a volunteers index finger and the trigger mechanism. The fact that volunteers (b) loaded more bullets (18) than Sheila would have had to have handled and reloaded (14) was not reflected in the figures relied upon in the test results. Since, none of the volunteers 'wiped the key fingers of their hands (c) after completion of the exercise, nor were any of the volunteers hands or fingers masked by the presence blood upon their own hands / key fingers. Seems to me that these so called 'comparison tests, were badly handled, and the results obtained from these tests were 'misused', and very misleading in their execution...

Just more excuses on your part, any idiot can see that Sheila wasn't capable of doing what you have suggested, the whole videa is preposterous. The forensics are very clear despite people like lookout being in denial, they all point in one direction.  As David Boutflour recently put it, Sheila ended up with barely a hair out of place!

 Unlike you, most people who have taken the time to evaluate all the evidence usually come to the same conclusion and that is that Jeremy Bamber is guilty.  Maybe in time you will come to realise how Bamber has made a prize fool out of you all these years.

[sami]

  Maybe in time you will come to realise how Bamber has made a prize fool out of you all these years.
[/quote] i fully agree john.but i fear when mike reads it you will be in for a lot of kisses  fxxx xxx xxxt

[Caroline]

No, don't you dare pull that stroke on here. He wasn't 'in on it too'...

That's where you are wrong. You ain't going to be allowed to 'introduce that stroke here', because he wasn't in on it, as you 'mockingly are trying to suggest'. Your attempt to 'trick' the general public at large will not be allowed to go 'unchallenged' on this forum. Why do you say, 'that he must be in on it', as well? Stop talking 'rubbish'. He didn't have to be in on it, as suggested by you. He was 'used'...

He examined 25 spent cartridge casings which had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, and 'fired', then 'extracted' and 'ejected' from it. But he would conclude that this was true because all 25 bullet casings had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, fired and extracted, then ejected from that gun, only 14 of them, did not go through that process until a month or so, 'after' the shootings. What Pryor failed to do, was carry out any sort of examination, confirming that all 25 spent cartridge casings that were subject of his examination, that proved 'an association' between all the casings, and all the bullets. Different ammunition manufacturers use different formula's to prime the rounds they manufacture, and the machines used in the manufacturing process, impose a different set of 'crimping marks' where the bullet and the primed cartridge are fixed together...

Tell you what...

Examination of the 14 bullet casings that are still held at the lab', have an 'intriging' part to play, in 'unravelling' the truth in this matter...

Ask yourself, why did the ballistic expert seek to 'retain' 14 spent bullet casings (MDF/100) that had 'not been fired' via the anshuzt rifle?

He isn't the only one being used.

[mike tesko]

Just more excuses on your part, any idiot can see that Sheila wasn't capable of doing what you have suggested, the whole videa is preposterous. The forensics are very clear despite people like lookout being in denial, they all point in one direction.  As David Boutflour recently put it, Sheila ended up with barely a hair out of place!

 Unlike you, most people who have taken the time to evaluate all the evidence usually come to the same conclusion and that is that Jeremy Bamber is guilty.  Maybe in time you will come to realise how Bamber has made a prize fool out of you all these years.

Get lost...

[mike tesko]

According to the pathologist,  the killer of June Bamber had grabbed her by the throat - oh, look at the marks on the top of Sheila's right hand...