What makes Bamber innocent?

[JackiePreece]

They are such beautiful creatures Jackie. I watched all the Queen's horses last Sunday and it was a magnificent show for her 90th birthday. Those horses were so clever,as were the riders in their acrobatic mode. Just brilliant.

Thank you Lookout x

[Jane]

Your approach is all wrong - how could Jeremy force cops to report two bodies downstairs, from 7.37am, and the other three bodies upstairs at 8.10am?  Why did the occupants of CA07 who were responsible for 'relaying' information received from inside the farmhouse at 7.37am, 7.38am, and 8.10am, to the control room at far away Chelmsford police station, choose to stay silent, in the knowledge that by the time the case came to trial in October 1986, the body count downstairs and upstairs, was different to 'that' reported by them up to, and inclusive of 8.10am...

Odd that...

Jeremy couldn't force but he encouraged and guided their thinking OUTside. Any mistakes made INside, probably because of confusion, were their own responsibility.

[JackiePreece]

I've looked through the Dickinson book and there's nothing about someone, movement or tricks of light?

The following statements cover the time Bews and Myall arrived and before the officers with guns arrived.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5950

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5951

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http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5953

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5954

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[JackiePreece]

yes half a dozen rats

 

[mike tesko]

Your approach is all wrong - how could Jeremy force cops to report two bodies downstairs, from 7.37am, and the other three bodies upstairs at 8.10am?  Why did the occupants of CA07 who were responsible for 'relaying' information received from inside the farmhouse at 7.37am, 7.38am, and 8.10am, to the control room at far away Chelmsford police station, choose to stay silent, in the knowledge that by the time the case came to trial in October 1986, the body count downstairs and upstairs, was different to 'that' reported by them up to, and inclusive of 8.10am...

Odd that...

It gets worse, because the recipient of 'those' messages back in the control room, or the communications room (7.37am, 7.38am, and 8.10am), appears not to have raised an eyebrow, once the dust had settled and the body count downstairs and upstairs changed within the space of 34 minutes (between 8.10pm and 8.44pm) from two downstairs, three upstairs, into one downstairs, four upstairs...

Nobody has questioned this very serious discrepancy, not the officers inside the farmhouse, not CA07 who relayed the conflicting key messages, not the recipients back at Chelmsford, not the police surgeon, not the Coroners officer, and not the Divisional Chief Inspector?

What the 'bloody hell? has been going on here?

This is a very serious matter, that every cop involved in this investigation have ignored...

[mike tesko]

Why hasn't the Commander of the firearm operation (PS Adams) questioned it? Why hasn't  PI Montgomery questioned it? Why hasn't DCI Harris questioned it? Why didn't Chief Inspector Gibbons question it? Why  didn't DCI Wright question it? Why didn't ACC Peter Simpson question it?

Ah, maybe now the 'penny is beginning to sink in'...

At the very least, there must have been an internal enquiry into 'what went wrong' with the body count during a 'live firearm operation'. What was said by whoever inside the farmhouse, which led to CA07 relaying that information to the control room, which in turn led to SOCO being contacted at home about the discovery of two bodies downstairs by 7.45am, One body a dead male, one body a dead female, one body a murder, one body a suicide? The police surgeon, the coroners officer, and the Divisional Chief Inspector all notified of 'two bodies' found 'downstairs'. ..

Why has no police officer been disciplined over this matter?

[mike tesko]

Why hasn't the Commander of the firearm operation (PS Adams) questioned it? Why hasn't  PI Montgomery questioned it? Why hasn't DCI Harris questioned it? Why didn't Chief Inspector Gibbons question it? Why  didn't DCI Wright question it? Why didn't ACC Peter Simpson question it?

Ah, maybe now the 'penny is beginning to sink in'...

At the very least, there must have been an internal enquiry into 'what went wrong' with the body count during a 'live firearm operation'. What was said by whoever inside the farmhouse, which led to CA07 relaying that information to the control room, which in turn led to SOCO being contacted at home about the discovery of two bodies downstairs by 7.45am, One body a dead male, one body a dead female, one body a murder, one body a suicide? The police surgeon, the coroners officer, and the Divisional Chief Inspector all notified of 'two bodies' found 'downstairs'. ..

Why has no police officer been disciplined over this matter?

Don't tell me, that Jeremy forced this very serious matter, onto the police - how the hell could he have influenced any of this?

[sami]

Why hasn't the Commander of the firearm operation (PS Adams) questioned it? Why hasn't  PI Montgomery questioned it? Why hasn't DCI Harris questioned it? Why didn't Chief Inspector Gibbons question it? Why  didn't DCI Wright question it? Why didn't ACC Peter Simpson question it?

Ah, maybe now the 'penny is beginning to sink in'...

At the very least, there must have been an internal enquiry into 'what went wrong' with the body count during a 'live firearm operation'. What was said by whoever inside the farmhouse, which led to CA07 relaying that information to the control room, which in turn led to SOCO being contacted at home about the discovery of two bodies downstairs by 7.45am, One body a dead male, one body a dead female, one body a murder, one body a suicide? The police surgeon, the coroners officer, and the Divisional Chief Inspector all notified of 'two bodies' found 'downstairs'. ..

Why has no police officer been disciplined over this matter?

could it be they made a mistake and there was only 1 body in the kitchen .not impossible

[mike tesko]

Why isn't ex cop Bews  breaking his neck to pocket a few grand for his 'exclusive story' relating to what really happened? At least he can't claim it was another 'trick of light', can he?

Can he?

Can...

He?

[Jane]

Don't tell me, that Jeremy forced this very serious matter, onto the police - how the hell could he have influenced any of this?

Who of us is suggesting he did?

[Caroline]

I've looked through the Dickinson book and there's nothing about someone, movement or tricks of light?

The following statements cover the time Bews and Myall arrived and before the officers with guns arrived.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5950

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5951

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5952

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5953

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5954

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=5955

So what, it was mentioned at the trial - it's been confirmed by NGB - if you can't accept that then stay in denial.

[maggie]

careful jane she will have you REPORTED to the gustapho

Who are the gestapo?

[sami]

They are such beautiful creatures Jackie. I watched all the Queen's horses last Sunday and it was a magnificent show for her 90th birthday. Those horses were so clever,as were the riders in their acrobatic mode. Just brilliant.

you should invite the clever ones to give you a hand in this case you might learn something from them.than you can say it came straight from the horses mouth

[mike tesko]

could it be they made a mistake and there was only 1 body in the kitchen .not impossible

If it had been a mistake, cops would have reported four bodies upstairs by 8.10am, but only three bodies upstairs by that time, and all five bodies accounted for by that stage...

Funny thing is, that when it was reported that only three bodies were found upstairs, nobody questioned it? Nobody said, 'hang on a minute, if there is only one body downstairs, where's the missing body gone'?

[mike tesko]

Who of us is suggesting he did?

He didn't...