What makes Bamber innocent?

[Jane]

No-one has come forward to say anything which discredits what Kim Sengupta wrote about, so why shouldn't it be true?

Why pick out one person amongst all the other errors that were printed at the time?

[sami]

To pick up her poo and put on his roses?

careful jane she will have you REPORTED to the gustapho

[JackiePreece]

Everyone knows it was mentioned at trial - anyone who has bothered to read up on the case. I've have already told you where it is documented, IN THE TRAIL TRANSCRIPTS! 

Who's everyone?

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"Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!"

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7638.msg360534.html#msg360534

Where is the documentary evidence that Jeremy said it was a figure?  Or that it was described at the time as movement?  I've asked you to provide the documentary evidence.  You referred me to a book by Silkes.   

I've looked through all the trial transcripts here and nothing.  Myalls trial transcript

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Bewes trial transcript isn't here but why wouldnt Myall be tested on this?

Bewes said Myalls said he saw "someone"?  Nothing about Jeremy seeing anyone and nothing about movement or tricks of the light?

[Jane]

If cops reported finding 'two bodies downstairs in the kitchen' from as long ago as 7.37am, and the other 'three bodies upstairs' by 8.10am, they wouldn't deliberately lie about it, unless 'cops did something they ought not to have done', with 'one of the two bodies downstairs' ending 'up dead upstairs', is a far more 'compelling' argument, than your suggestion that 'if' an 'unidentified' male had walked away from the scene that PC Myalls would have challenged him, or even arrested him..

If they made mistakes regarding whom they thought they saw where and tricks of light aka and unidentified (male)person moving around the bedroom, why should they not have made a mistake regarding the SLHM  seen leaving the vicinity of the farm house?

[Jane]

careful jane she will have you REPORTED to the gustapho

Sami, is not horse poo the property of the horses owner?

[mike tesko]

the person was leaving a crime scene doesnt matter if no shots were heard the police would have challanged him

Frankly speaking, if J had been the killer he would have had to have been the 'last person' still alive inside the farmhouse. Yet, he was 'outside' with the cops at the time of the sighting of the person in the bedroom window (before 4am), and less than an hour later, when as per Kim Senguptas' report that a scruffy looking hunched man was seen walking away from the scene. Add to this, the fact that the window in question subject of the first sighting, is the exact same bedroom window where at 7.15am, the anshuzt rifle suddenly and unexpectedly appeared at the bedroom window. This 'fact' above all else establishes that somebody was 'still alive' inside the farmhouse 15 minutes before cops set off to enter the farmhouse...

[lookout]

would you say the same about crime reporters who say jb is guilty and a childkiller

I only mentioned her because she's clever------------and a woman ! The others will be licking their wounds before long.

[Jane]

Frankly speaking, if J had been the killer he would have had to have been the 'last person' still alive inside the farmhouse. Yet, he was 'outside' with the cops at the time of the sighting of the person in the bedroom window (before 4am), and less than an hour later, when as per Kim Senguptas' report that a scruffy looking hunched man was seen walking away from the scene. Add to this, the fact that the window in question subject of the first sighting, is the exact same bedroom window where at 7.15am, the anshuzt rifle suddenly and unexpectedly appeared at the bedroom window. This 'fact' above all else establishes that somebody was 'still alive' inside the farmhouse 15 minutes before cops set off to enter the farmhouse...

I don't understand your reasoning. WHY would he hang around after he'd killed everyone? SURELY the most sensible thing was to put space between himself and the soc -which he did- and use a fictitious phone call from his father as proof he was at home NOT at the soc......................which he also did?

[JackiePreece]

(Hope NGB has a bucket handy!  )

[JackiePreece]

To pick up her poo and put on his roses?

[JackiePreece]

careful jane she will have you REPORTED to the gustapho

[sami]

yes half a dozen rats

[sami]

Sami, is not horse poo the property of the horses owner?

yes thats correct in law

[lookout]

They are such beautiful creatures Jackie. I watched all the Queen's horses last Sunday and it was a magnificent show for her 90th birthday. Those horses were so clever,as were the riders in their acrobatic mode. Just brilliant.

[mike tesko]

I don't understand your reasoning. WHY would he hang around after he'd killed everyone? SURELY the most sensible thing was to put space between himself and the soc -which he did- and use a fictitious phone call from his father as proof he was at home NOT at the soc......................which he also did?

Your approach is all wrong - how could Jeremy force cops to report two bodies downstairs, from 7.37am, and the other three bodies upstairs at 8.10am?  Why did the occupants of CA07 who were responsible for 'relaying' information received from inside the farmhouse at 7.37am, 7.38am, and 8.10am, to the control room at far away Chelmsford police station, choose to stay silent, in the knowledge that by the time the case came to trial in October 1986, the body count downstairs and upstairs, was different to 'that' reported by them up to, and inclusive of 8.10am...

Odd that...