What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

What a load of twaddle, he could say that wouldn't he. 

Had the police fired any shots everyone there would have known about it not to mention the immediate radio messages including the usual...

SHOTS FIRED !!! SHOTS FIRED !!!

You don't know what was said, or who said anything, since the audio recording obtained via the kitchen telephone with its handset off its cradle, has never yet been disclosed. And, only ' one shot' was fired after cops entered the kitchen, so you need to 'rethink' your twaddle...

[Jane]

J believed cops must have shot his family. That was his first impression after cops told him that everybody in the house were dead from gun shot wounds. He complained to that effect when he spoke to PS Saxby after being told the news. J also spoke about this possibility to a local garage owner. If from an early stage, the contents of the police message logs had been disclosed causing a massive contradiction as to the distribution of bodies downstairs and upstairs, I have no doubt that during the October 1986 trial, that it would have been part of the defence case, that cops had shot and killed at least one of the five victims. A fact strengthened by the sighting of the figure in the upstairs bedroom, alive and with mobility. No 'shots' having been overheard to have emitted from inside the farmhouse after 'that' sighting. There was the ' mystery' surrounding how the 'open telephone line', had become inexplicably 'engaged', and details of a recorded police message, timed at 5.25am, that morning which stated that 'firearm officers' were engaged in 'a conversation' with 'a person' from 'inside the farm'. This could 'not' have been a reference to 'J', because by that stage he was no longer at the scene. He had left to go with a uniformed police officer to a local public telephone kiosk in order to make a telephone call to his then girlfriend, Julie Mugford...

I don't recall it ever being said -at any point- that there had been "sighting of the figure in the upstairs bedroom, alive and with mobility." My understanding has always been that it was a "trick of the light".

[mike tesko]

So it was the police who first put the idea into Julies head that it was a hit man. Because Ralph Nevill was in the farm house as Sheila's accomplice and was the hunched man seen leaving WHF.

Whose idea was it to say it was MM ? Whose ever it was it was a poor idea. He had an alibi.

I believe that the figure seen by Myall, Bews and J, was the same scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farmhouse about an hour later, was 'none other' than Ralph Neville. His leaving the country so suddenly on the morning police entered the farmhouse and discovered bodies (and shot one), leaving his camper vehicle locally, is too much of a coincidence. It was whilst Ralph Neville was hitch hiking towards a local port to flee the country that same morning, that Neville had bragged to Mr Chambers (man who gave him a lift) that he had been staying with a family on a farm where the family had all been killed, and that newsmen and TV crews had been reporting on it...

[mike tesko]

I believe that the figure seen by Myall, Bews and J, was the same scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farmhouse about an hour later, was 'none other' than Ralph Neville. His leaving the country so suddenly on the morning police entered the farmhouse and discovered bodies (and shot one), leaving his camper vehicle locally, is too much of a coincidence. It was whilst Ralph Neville was hitch hiking towards a local port to flee the country that same morning, that Neville had bragged to Mr Chambers (man who gave him a lift) that he had been staying with a family on a farm where the family had all been killed, and that newsmen and TV crews had been reporting on it...

Why did Neville flee the country, so suddenly?

[Adam]

I believe that the figure seen by Myall, News and J, was the same scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farmhouse about an hour later, was 'none other' than Ralph Neville. His leaving the country so suddenly on the morning police entered the farmhouse and discovered bodies (and shot one), leaving his camper vehicle locally, is too much of a coincidence. It was whilst Ralph Neville was hitch hiking towards a local port to flee the country that same morning, that Neville had bragged to Mr Chambers (man who gave him a lift) that he had been staying with a family on a farm where the family had all been killed, and that newsmen and TV crews had been reporting on it...

An hour later from when ? From when the police entered WHF, or from when they arrived at WHF.

Where did Ralph Nevill exit from ? All the doors and windows were locked from inside.

[Jane]

Why did Neville flee the country, so suddenly?

Leaving the country isn't tantamount to "fleeing" the country and what is there to suggest the leaving was "sudden".

[Jane]

I believe that the figure seen by Myall, Bews and J, was the same scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farmhouse about an hour later, was 'none other' than Ralph Neville. His leaving the country so suddenly on the morning police entered the farmhouse and discovered bodies (and shot one), leaving his camper vehicle locally, is too much of a coincidence. It was whilst Ralph Neville was hitch hiking towards a local port to flee the country that same morning, that Neville had bragged to Mr Chambers (man who gave him a lift) that he had been staying with a family on a farm where the family had all been killed, and that newsmen and TV crews had been reporting on it...

Something he was very unlikely to have made mention of had he been involved in the murders.

[Caroline]

I believe that the figure seen by Myall, Bews and J, was the same scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farmhouse about an hour later, was 'none other' than Ralph Neville. His leaving the country so suddenly on the morning police entered the farmhouse and discovered bodies (and shot one), leaving his camper vehicle locally, is too much of a coincidence. It was whilst Ralph Neville was hitch hiking towards a local port to flee the country that same morning, that Neville had bragged to Mr Chambers (man who gave him a lift) that he had been staying with a family on a farm where the family had all been killed, and that newsmen and TV crews had been reporting on it...

So, there is a siege situation and the police let someone just walk away? That just isn't credible.

[Adam]

Mike why did Ralph Nevill agree to assist Sheila ?

When did Ralph and Sheila discuss this ?

Did Sheila let him in that evening ?

Why did Neville ring Jeremy ? He would have had enough on his plate up against Sheila and Ralph.

[mike tesko]

I don't recall it ever being said -at any point- that there had been "sighting of the figure in the upstairs bedroom, alive and with mobility." My understanding has always been that it was a "trick of the light".

It was 'not a trick of light', it was the sighting of Ralph Neville, moving around inside the bedroom. He 'was' Sheila's accomplice. He helped her to kill the others, including overpowering Mr Bamber, Snr...

Neville used 'Anthony Pargeters' .22 bolt action (Bruno) Rifle in the shootings, and his Parker hale silencer. I am correct in reporting that Neville may have been injured during the struggle with dad in the kitchen, and that 'his blood' might be the source of the blood attributed to the silencer (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, AK1)...

[mike tesko]

It was 'not a trick of light', it was the sighting of Ralph Neville, moving around inside the bedroom. He 'was' Sheila's accomplice. He helped her to kill the others, including overpowering Mr Bamber, Snr...

Neville used 'Anthony Pargeters' .22 bolt action (Bruno) Rifle in the shootings, and his Parker hale silencer. I am correct in reporting that Neville may have been injured during the struggle with dad in the kitchen, and that 'his blood' might be the source of the blood attributed to the silencer (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, AK1)...

We already know that Robert Woodwis Boutflour had these very same blood groups along with Sheila Caffell...

[Jane]

It was 'not a trick of light', it was the sighting of Ralph Neville, moving around inside the bedroom. He 'was' Sheila's accomplice. He helped her to kill the others, including overpowering Mr Bamber, Snr...

Neville used 'Anthony Pargeters' .22 bolt action (Bruno) Rifle in the shootings, and his Parker hale silencer. I am correct in reporting that Neville may have been injured during the struggle with dad in the kitchen, and that 'his blood' might be the source of the blood attributed to the silencer (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, AK1)...

Yeah, 'Coarse it was !!!!!!!! I'd have thought you'd have chosen one of the villainous Brothers from the Monastery as your mystery man.

[Adam]

Mike why don't you create a Youtube video about this.

Sheila having an accomplice is not something that has been considered by the public.

[mike tesko]

We already know that Robert Woodwis Boutflour had these very same blood groups along with Sheila Caffell...

Ralph Neville's blood groups, need checking...

Why?

Because, somebody with blood on their hands, possibly 'their own blood' unscrewed the silencer from the end of the .22 bolt action (Bruno) Rifle, and their blood got onto and into the aperture of the silencers end cap, which in turn was the source for the flake which produced the key collection of blood group activity...

[David1819]

Mike why don't you create a Youtube video about this.

Sheila having an accomplice is not something that has been considered by the public.

Why are you always on about mike on youtube?