David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim

[susan]

I like the new approach.

New evidence is allegedly going to clear Bamber's name according to supporters. But no one knows what this evidence is supposed to be. It's a big secret.

And no one will ever know, unless Bamber gets and wins a CCRC hearing. The COA will then publish their report, as it did in 2002.

David knows NGB knows need I go on do you read other people's posts I think not

[Stephanie]

I can't be bothered to quote some of David's previous postings but here's one that stands out;

Allot of people do. Ages ago I first pointed out that Jeremy could have entered the house and taken the phone off the hook in the kitchen and that will disable all the lines in the house preventing anyone else from making an outgoing call and that's all he needed to do.

That then became part of CALs version of events in her book when it was published some 6-7 month later. Holly over at red has noticed things like that also. could be coincidence tho

I have made a few other discoveries but I am reluctant to post it because I don't want some author or journalist to steal it 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7504.msg354092.html#msg354092

IMO this is ego based..

[Adam]

To search the bed, looking for a weapon. The anshuzt rifle was not on the bed, it was leaning up against the wall by the side of the bedroom window...

So Sheila shot herself by the window, then went to lay on the bed, leaving the rifle by the window.

Would the police not have seen a rifle if it was on the bed. They are big.

[Stephanie]

David knows NGB knows need I go on do you read other people's posts I think not

Hi Susan I've read previous posts, including NGB's.

Like Adams, my posts aren't personally aimed at anyone or intended to undermine in anyway. I am merely expressing my personal opinion.

I believe Bamber is a psychopath. I therefore do not believe David's findings will make much difference, however strong they may appear to others.

I don't believe having a differing opinion to others should make any difference to a n others credibility. Nor do I see it as such. We are all different and holding opposing views shouldn't cause conflict.

[lookout]

The sound moderator labelling was a shambles but beyond that, no conspiracy.

Yet that's what had " sealed the deal " so far as everyone was concerned ? Because there was now't else.

[JackiePreece]

A verbal expression of love is really meaningless ...

Love is expressed by actions ...

Many people do not verbally express love ...

But they show it in 100's of small actions ...

Also many people verbally express love but do not show it in their actions ...

My opinion is that Neville and June like so many of their generation might not have verbally expressed their love ...

But i am sure they expressed it in 1000's of their actions ...

I am sure Sheila and Jeremy therefore felt very much loved as they grew up because of that ...

And i have no doubt they were very deeply loved by their parents indeed ...

What a brilliant post and exactly how I feel

[Stephanie]

What a brilliant post and exactly how I feel

Feeling something isn't being objective!

[lookout]

I was born and brought up in that era when " kisses and cuddles " were in short supply but it didn't mean that children were thought any less of. I'd wager a bet that more children back then were born more out of love than in this day and age where we see countless cases of child neglect and cruelty !!

[Stephanie]

I was born and brought up in that era when " kisses and cuddles " were in short supply but it didn't mean that children were thought any less of. I'd wager a bet that more children back then were born more out of love than in this day and age where we see countless cases of child neglect and cruelty !!

What's that got to do with the new forensic breakthrough?

[mike tesko]

There were numerous errors and inconsistencies through out the SH case documents also.. This doesn't prove innocence...

It proves his innocence in this case, and in his circumstances, by virtue of the fact that its alleged admissibility during the trial was being strongly touted as the proof of his guilt. That is why the silencer evidence is so pivotal in Bambers case, you can't on the one hand say, oh, a silencer was used, it had Sheila's blood inside it, she couldn't have removed it after she had killed herself, and with the 7" silencer fitted to the rifles barrel the overall length of the weapon so configured would have made it too long for her to have shot herself even if she had wanted to. And then, once its accepted (as it surely will be) that the relatives, the cops, and even some key experts from the Home Office Lab' at Huntingdon, have all ' conspired' together to pervert the course of justice, by introducing a decoy second uncontaminated silencer into the mix, there can only be one outcome, and that will be to quash the convictions, and they had better get on with it sharphish, otherwise there will be hundreds of other cases queuing up to have their cases reviewed, if any of these conspirators had any involvement in their own prosecutions...

[JackiePreece]

There were numerous errors and inconsistencies through out the SH case documents also.. This doesn't prove innocence...

I am so bored hearing about the SH case. We all know he was a thug and a murderer and you are a very bad judge of character

This is a thread about David not your bad judgement

[susan]

Hi Susan I've read previous posts, including NGB's.

Like Adams, my posts aren't personally aimed at anyone or intended to undermine in anyway. I am merely expressing my personal opinion.

I believe Bamber is a psychopath. I therefore do not believe David's findings will make much difference, however strong they may appear to others.

I don't believe having a differing opinion to others should make any difference to a n others credibility. Nor do I see it as such. We are all different and holding opposing views shouldn't cause conflict.

Hello Steph

I cannot comment on Jeremy Bamber being a psychopath as I have not got a clue.  I strongly believe posters should post with different views without conflict and I always try to do and I apologise if I come over like that.  I thought it was terrible that David's find has been ridiculed to a certain extent as none of us know what it is and I am sure NGB would not have posted about it if he did not think it was worth a mention.

[Stephanie]

It proves his innocence in this case, and in his circumstances, by virtue of the fact that its alleged admissibility during the trial was being strongly touted as the proof of his guilt. That is why the silencer evidence is so pivotal in Bambers case, you can't on the one hand say, oh, a silencer was used, it had Sheila's blood inside it, she couldn't have removed it after she had killed herself, and with the 7" silencer fitted to the rifles barrel the overall length of the weapon so configured would have made it too long for her to have shot herself even if she had wanted to. And then, once its accepted (as it surely will be) that the relatives, the cops, and even some key experts from the Home Office Lab' at Huntingdon, have all ' conspired' together to pervert the course of justice, there can only be one outcome, and that will be to quash the convictions, and they had better get on with it sharphish, otherwise there will be hundreds of other cases queuing up to have their cases reviewed, if any of these conspirators had any involvement in their own prosecutions...

No it doesn't. It just shows errors were made!

[lookout]

What's that got to do with the new forensic breakthrough?

Get off your high horse !
It has a lot to do with your accusations of JB's " behaviour/psychopathy " that you get in with every post whether it's relevant or not to the thread.

[Adam]

I can't be bothered to quote some of David's previous postings but here's one that stands out;

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7504.msg354092.html#msg354092

IMO this is ego based..

The CAL claim was rubbished as that issue had been discussed before on here, and in 2011 by Woffinden.

David also said in 2015 he was going to submit a breakdown of how Sheila committed the massacre. Then delayed this submission to 2016 as he wanted to make it detailed. It has never been submitted.