Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2

[Stephanie]

So did I, had to trawl through them to look for it - no doubt in six months when the 'assessments' are brought up again, I'll have to trawl again!

 

[Stephanie]

So hes a cat A prisoner and is seen as a great risk to public if he escapes .

Is that because he refuses to say hes guilty of such a violent crime and so renders him a physcho

Forgive me if i am getting the wrong end of the stick.

SH was an appellant the same as Bamber. He maintained innocence for over 12 years and eventually ended up in an open prison categorised as a D-Cat prisoner.

[David1819]

So hes a cat A prisoner and is seen as a great risk to public if he escapes .

Is that because he refuses to say hes guilty of such a violent crime and so renders him a physcho

Forgive me if i am getting the wrong end of the stick.

In order for Jeremy to be downgraded he has to undergo offense related courses and part of those courses is admitting to the crime hence he does not do them.

Since Jeremy has life without parole he also has no motive to undergo any courses to impress the parole board because it wont lead anywhere.

[Steve_uk]

In order for Jeremy to be downgraded he has to undergo offense related courses and part of those courses is admitting to the crime hence he does not do them.

Since Jeremy has life without parole he also has no motive to undergo any courses to impress the parole board because it wont lead anywhere.

Not that I'm advocating the death penalty, but did abolitionists take into account a prisoner's mental state incarcerated without hope all these years..

[Caroline]

Not that I'm advocating the death penalty, but did abolitionists take into account a prisoner's mental state incarcerated without hope all these years..

I wouldn't say that Jeremy doesn't have hope - that is all he really has left.

[David1819]

Not that I'm advocating the death penalty, but did abolitionists take into account a prisoner's mental state incarcerated without hope all these years..

What used to happen was, prisoners with life without parole were never told they had life without parole and would get bogus parole hearing's in the view that it would benefit their mental health (false hope)

However the EU human rights legislations put an end to this, I don't think Jeremy was ever "upgraded" to life without parole I think he was more or less told the truth about his sentence if you know what I mean

[Jane]

What used to happen was, prisoners with life without parole were never told they had life without parole and would get bogus parole hearing's in the view that it would benefit their mental health (false hope)

However the EU human rights legislations put an end to this, I don't think Jeremy was ever "upgraded" to life without parole I think he was more or less told the truth about his sentence if you know what I mean

His trial judge was quite explicit. Yes, he sentenced him to 25 years but with the rider that it was still to be decided if he would ever be safe to be released.

[Stephanie]

In order for Jeremy to be downgraded he has to undergo offense related courses and part of those courses is admitting to the crime hence he does not do them.

Since Jeremy has life without parole he also has no motive to undergo any courses to impress the parole board because it wont lead anywhere.

SH completed offence related courses and remained an appellant and worked his way from a B Cat to a D Cat, eventually transferring to open prison condition via the 'Guittard' ruling.

Up until the 23rd February 2014, SH remained classified as a D-Cat prisoner.

[Stephanie]

Not that I'm advocating the death penalty, but did abolitionists take into account a prisoner's mental state incarcerated without hope all these years..

I wouldn't say that Jeremy doesn't have hope - that is all he really has left.

According to Bamber, to moan about his situation when compared to "those poor flood victims" would appear to be "self-indulgent."

To recap Bamber stated:

"This week I will be turning 55 and I know I am lucky to have reached this age. I know my last thirty years have not seemed that great and to a point that’s true but to moan is so self-indulgent when I think of all those poor flood victims who didn’t deserve their lives to be turned upside down with events which may devastate their lives for years. Plus I’ve been watching the awful conflicts in Syria and Iraq and in so many Middle Eastern Countries, the awful deaths of civilians and troops; the displacement of peoples; the loss of everything, no one has done anything to deserve that, to suffer such dreadful loss, so here’s me moaning about my miscarriage of justice and I feel that so many others have equal and worse things to deal with."

[Stephanie]

Not that I'm advocating the death penalty, but did abolitionists take into account a prisoner's mental state incarcerated without hope all these years..

I was reading in detail about Full Sutton prison recently, have a look at this Steve http://insidetime.org/hmp-full-sutton-prison-regime-info/

[Steve_uk]

I was reading in detail about Full Sutton prison recently, have a look at this Steve http://insidetime.org/hmp-full-sutton-prison-regime-info/

Well I've skim-read it Stephanie but nothing can prepare you for the solitude of the prison cell as the shadows start to fall.

[Stephanie]

Well I've skim-read it Stephanie but nothing can prepare you for the solitude of the prison cell as the shadows start to fall.

Have you been in prison Steve?

[Stephanie]

Hasn't Bamber stated he prefers his solitude.

[Stephanie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do7E5ksS5jQ

Do you think Trudi is reading the forum? She answered my question re: psychopaths can pass a polygraph! Cheers Trudi

I've only just read this - gonna watch the vid..

[David1819]

SH completed offence related courses and remained an appellant and worked his way from a B Cat to a D Cat, eventually transferring to open prison condition via the 'Guittard' ruling.

Up until the 23rd February 2014, SH remained classified as a D-Cat prisoner.

SH conviction was a burglary gone wrong and killed her to avoid detection. JBs conviction is allot more brutal and calculating also involving children so they wont treat them the same.