Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2

[Caroline]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do7E5ksS5jQ

Do you think Trudi is reading the forum? She answered my question re: psychopaths can pass a polygraph! Cheers Trudi

[nugnug]

bear in mind that he wasnt challenged to do the test he asked himself.

when the prisonfirst refused he could of just said well i wanted to take one but i wasnt allowed to.

[Caroline]

bear in mind that he wasnt challenged to do the test he asked himself.

when the prisonfirst refused he could of just said well i wanted to take one but i wasnt allowed to.

And? If he believed he could pass, why wouldn't he do it? You can only fail if you feel guilt - psychopaths don't.

[nugnug]

he couldent possbly know he was going to pass.

[notsure]

And he has no diagnosis of being a psychopath.

[Jane]

And he has no diagnosis of being a psychopath.

It's very doubtful that the authorities would be interested. I think it unlikely that they'd go to the expense of running tests to find out, and I can't see Jeremy agreeing to take a test which would proclaim him as such.

[notsure]

Well he had the pclr test didnt he and lots of other tests. The fact is jane we dont have any proof of him being a physcopath and jyst have our opinions to go on which can distort our views.

[Jane]

Well he had the pclr test didnt he and lots of other tests. The fact is jane we dont have any proof of him being a physcopath and jyst have our opinions to go on which can distort our views.

To the best of my knowledge, Jeremy hasn't received anything in the way of regular testing that other life prisoners haven't had. Probably the same routine, yearly tests that we have in our doctor's surgeries. There seems to be a perception of Jeremy being some sort of super-star prisoner and receiving special attention. I don't think anything could be further from the truth. Just a thought, but what service do you think it would perform, and whose lives do you imagine would be changed if the authorities were to announce that Jeremy had been found to be a psychopath?

[notsure]

To the best of my knowledge, Jeremy hasn't received anything in the way of regular testing that other life prisoners haven't had. Probably the same routine, yearly tests that we have in our doctor's surgeries. There seems to be a perception of Jeremy being some sort of super-star prisoner and receiving special attention. I don't think anything could be further from the truth. Just a thought, but what service do you think it would perform, and whose lives do you imagine would be changed if the authorities were to announce that Jeremy had been found to be a psychopath?

well its what people base thier opinions on regarding the polygraph. Its no good going round in circles on this , we can only go on the facts which is that he has had pclr tests and 27 others tests all of which confirm he is not a physcopath and does not have a personality disorder. My own personal opinion is that it would be a lot easier for me to be convinced of his guilt if it was proven he was a physcopath

[Caroline]

Well he had the pclr test didnt he and lots of other tests. The fact is jane we dont have any proof of him being a physcopath and jyst have our opinions to go on which can distort our views.

The PCL-R test is only as good as the tester and it is open to their biases. For instance, I might think Jeremy was being glib, you may not. The other tests are to assess 'dangerousness' - all prisoners have them, nothing to do with testing for psychopathy.

I think he's guilty and to kill 5 people (including to innocent 6 year old children), not have any guilt or remorse - you have to be a psychopath. I used to think he was innocent so have looked at this from both sides of the fence.

[notsure]

What type of person can claim thier innocence for 30 years without showing signs of physcopathy or some kind of dissorder- he would need to be extremely clever to do that

[Caroline]

And he has no diagnosis of being a psychopath.

So you're not a psychopath until someone says so? The crime and the way he went about it and not showing ANY remorse shows he is a psychopath. That's my opinion and one which won't change.

[Caroline]

What type of person can claim thier innocence for 30 years without showing signs of physcopathy or some kind of dissorder- he would need to be extremely clever to do that

What kind of person? A psychopath! 

[David1819]

There seems to be a perception of Jeremy being some sort of super-star prisoner and receiving special attention. I don't think anything could be further from the truth. Just a thought, but what service do you think it would perform, and whose lives do you imagine would be changed if the authorities were to announce that Jeremy had been found to be a psychopath?

This has been mentioned a few times in the press and from former prisoners that at Full Sutton he had special privileges and better treatment from staff. I also read somewhere it was one of the reasons he got attacked.

[Jane]

well its what people base thier opinions on regarding the polygraph. Its no good going round in circles on this , we can only go on the facts which is that he has had pclr tests and 27 others tests all of which confirm he is not a physcopath and does not have a personality disorder. My own personal opinion is that it would be a lot easier for me to be convinced of his guilt if it was proven he was a physcopath

But the 27 tests to which you refer weren't testing for psychopathy or any other PD's so they can't have confirmed he wasn't one. They were routine -physiological-  tests that he's probably still having ie, bp, liver function, cholesterol, diabetes.