Reasons why no one would hear Bamber getting through the bathroom window:

[Adam]

Everyone was upstairs.

Everyone would be asleep.

Everyone's bedroom door would be shut.

The bathroom door may be shut.

There may be other shut doors between the bedrooms and the bathroom window.

The bathroom window was downstairs.

The bathroom window lock had been loosened by Bamber days or weeks beforehand.

The bathroom window may have been opened by Bamber a few hours earlier. And may still be open.

WHF was big and any noise may not be heard in another part of the building.

There is no reason why Bamber climbing through a ground floor window should be loud.

It would not take long for Bamber to climb through the window.

Bamber was fit and agile.

Bamber had previous experience of getting through the bathroom window.

Bamber did not need to close the window. Or open it fully. He just needed to get inside.

Bamber could have checked for obstacles which would risk a loud entrance at suplerAnd move any obstacles.

Bamber could double check the window at supper. To make sure entrance would be smooth.

There would be no one outside to distract him while he made his entrance.

[Adam]

Similar to the claim that Bamber would find it hard cycling to WHF, I've always found it very weak when people claim he could not get inside WHF without being heard. 

This thread, which has taken five minutes to compile has confirmed this.

Hopefully this will be another quick closure.

[Adam]

Right, Bamber has cycled to WHF and got inside. Without being seen or heard.

Everyone is asleep and there is a fully loaded rifle waiting for him.

Any more obstacles ?

[lookout]

 Crispy wasn't a Basenji and would immediately have barked at hearing anyone approaching inside via a window---at dead of night. Which would have prompted Neville to reach for a gun/rifle. So you can discount the fact that anyone,including Jeremy,got in through a window.

[Adam]

There has already been a thread on the dog.

If it was asleep in the main bedroom, it is unlikely to hear anything. For the reasons listed above.

If it was put in another room every night, it may not hear anything and may not be heard anyway.

[Adam]

Repeat -

Bamber has got to and got inside WHF without being seen or heard. He has picked up the loaded rifle. Everyone is asleep.

Any questions ?

[lookout]

Plenty of shootings---------plenty of blood. No traces in the drains,no traces in areas of exit. How would someone get in the farmhouse,and how would someone get out ?

[Adam]

Plenty of shootings---------plenty of blood. No traces in the drains,no traces in areas of exit. How would someone get in the farmhouse,and how would someone get out ?

What do you mean 'plenty of shootings' ?

Bamber has got to and  into WHF. Easily. Without being heard. See my thread post.

He has the rifle in his hand. Everyone is asleep. Of course there is going to be plenty of shootings.

Bamber got in through the bathroom window. Then out through the kitchen window, which could be locked from outside. (20 sources). You know this.

[lookout]

 As I've already said,Neville would have been ready with a gun/rifle when the dog would start to bark at that hour of the morning when everything was quiet.

[guest154]

As I've already said,Neville would have been ready with a gun/rifle when the dog would start to bark at that hour of the morning when everything was quiet.

You don't know that. You can say it is likely that he would have gotten up to see what the barking was, although he may have ignored it, my dog barks at the wind or for attention not always because something is wrong or happening.

You can't say he would have taken a gun.

[Caroline]

As I've already said,Neville would have been ready with a gun/rifle when the dog would start to bark at that hour of the morning when everything was quiet.

You mean he would have treated the situation as an 'emergency' - unlike Jeremy who couldn't even be arsed to dial 999. One rule for one eh? 

[Adam]

You don't know that. You can say it is likely that he would have gotten up to see what the barking was, although he may have ignored it, my dog barks at the wind or for attention not always because something is wrong or happening.

You can't say he would have taken a gun.

People have said the dog slept with Neville and June. It's doubtful the dog would hear Bamber through shut doors. Dogs sleep as well. Crispy was not a guard dog.

If Crispy didn't sleep with Neville and June, it would likely be put in a locked room somewhere. Rather than left to roam around the house all night.

[Jane]

People have said the dog slept with Neville and June. It's doubtful the dog would hear Bamber through shut doors. Dogs sleep as well. Crispy was not a guard dog.

If Crispy didn't sleep with Neville and June, it would likely be put in a locked room somewhere. Rather than left to roam around the house all night.

So you don't have a dog, Adam. I've yet to know a dog lover who'd LOCK their beloved pet in a room over night.

[Adam]

So you don't have a dog, Adam. I've yet to know a dog lover who'd LOCK their beloved pet in a room over night.

If lucky they are locked in a nice warm room. Otherwise an outside kennel.

If someone goes to work, they don't leave the dog free to roam the house. The dog is put in a secure environment where it can cause no damage. And then taken for a walk later. It's probably a similar situation when people go to bed. Although both dogs and cats do sometimes sleep with their owners.

[lookout]

You don't know that. You can say it is likely that he would have gotten up to see what the barking was, although he may have ignored it, my dog barks at the wind or for attention not always because something is wrong or happening.

You can't say he would have taken a gun.

In the early hours of the morning ? Not forgetting that Neville had previously received a threat from the idiot who threw loose bullets at his car telling him they'd be from the gun next time ?