strange answers to the psycopath test.

[Caroline]

He may have been initially imprisoned for being found guilty of murdering 5 people, but, from what I've seen posted here, he remains in prison because (in part) those who would have the authority to release him on the basis that he no longer poses a threat to society rely on the results of these tests (or their own interpretation of them) to conclude that he does, in fact, still pose a threat, because of his perceived current psychological makeup. So the tests, and the labels they generate are, in fact, very relevant.

Jeremy Bamber remains in prison not because he's been classified as a psychopath but because he has never taken responsibility for his crimes, rather he carries on the façade of a MOJ . His insistence of innocence also means that has not taken any of the rehabilitation courses but as he was also given a whole life tariff (because of the nature of his crimes) these will be of little value. Many of us here believe that he is a psychopath NOT because of any test or assessment but because of the nature of his crimes and the fact that he has not had the courage to admit responsibility. Just because someone claims they are innocent - doesn't mean they are and in the case, the facts speak for themselves - some people just refuse to face them.

[Stephanie]

You first posted that I could "give my opinion" at 6.48pm - it's now 7.43, and every time I've tried to post there has been a queue of posts  inviting me to review mine.

Update - just tried to post this and was warned that a further two posts have been made - so I'm just going to post it anyway - I have other things to be doing tonight.

Yet another excuse - you are certainly full of them  though this is by far the funniest 

It's now 'approximately' 20.31 hours. That is only an approximate time as I haven't checked with the speaking clock  but I'll post anyway.

I'm off to devourer a cadburys cream egg 

[Stephanie]

Jeremy Bamber remains in prison not because he's been classified as a psychopath but because he has never taken responsibility for his crimes, rather he carries on the façade of a MOJ . His insistence of innocence also means that has not taken any of the rehabilitation courses but as he was also given a whole life tariff (because of the nature of his crimes) these will be of little value. Many of us here believe that he is a psychopath NOT because of any test or assessment but because of the nature of his crimes and the fact that he has not had the courage to admit responsibility. Just because someone claims they are innocent - doesn't mean they are and in the case, the facts speak for themselves - some people just refuse to face them.

Totally agree Caroline!

Denial, by the way, for anyone who may be interested, is a coping mechanism that gives one time to adjust to distressing situations.

Remaining in denial however can interfere with ones ability to tackle challenges. If someone is in denial, it often means they are trying to protect themselves, by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in their life.

Worth a read imo http://lifehacker.com/5972649/how-denial-negatively-affects-your-choices-and-what-you-can-do-about-it

[nugnug]

How can you give your opinion above if you are not up to speed with the developments of the case? Makes no sense!

so as you think that both jeremy and luke are guilty can you give your opion on him.

[Stephanie]

so as you think that both jeremy and luke are guilty can you give your opion on him.

Already have done many moons back. You'll have to go and search for it because I have other things to do tonight.

[David1819]

Jeremy Bamber remains in prison not because he's been classified as a psychopath but because he has never taken responsibility for his crimes, rather he carries on the façade of a MOJ . His insistence of innocence also means that has not taken any of the rehabilitation courses but as he was also given a whole life tariff (because of the nature of his crimes) these will be of little value. Many of us here believe that he is a psychopath NOT because of any test or assessment but because of the nature of his crimes and the fact that he has not had the courage to admit responsibility. Just because someone claims they are innocent - doesn't mean they are and in the case, the facts speak for themselves - some people just refuse to face them.

Yet you cannot put forward a convincing argument to conclude he is guilty 

[nugnug]

well it wont take long to give it agian.

[nugnug]

Already have done many moons back. You'll have to go and search for it because I have other things to do tonight.

it wont take long to give agian do you think egan is reliable.

[Caroline]

Yet you cannot put forward a convincing argument to conclude he is guilty 

In your opinion.

[guest7363]

This from Carol lee's,

Yet documentation shows he refused to allow police access to his medical records pre-trial and did not want to be assessed, while a psychiatrist engaged by his defence declared that he displayed several classic psychopathic symptoms,” says Lee.

Chief among these was his genuine belief in his own innocence. “The psychiatrist believed that Jeremy did kill his family but had suppressed the memory until it was no longer real,” she adds.

Was this the Psychiatrist engaged by the defence who said he believed Bamber killed his family does anyone know?  Why did he refuse police access to his medical files, they must have thought he was that way inclined, funny he did not want to be assessed early, makes sense to be assessed years later?

[David1819]

In your opinion.

If you could put forward a convincing argument I would change my opinion 

[nugnug]

so protesting your innoce makes you psycopath that really is a catch 22.

[Caroline]

If you could put forward a convincing argument I would change my opinion 

So your opinion depends on me? Weird!

[Caroline]

so protesting your innoce makes you psycopath that really is a catch 22.

No Nugs - killing 5 innocent members of you family for gain and not taking responsibility because you feel no guilt makes you a psychopath. Sorry if it's confusing! 

[nugnug]

This from Carol lee's,

Yet documentation shows he refused to allow police access to his medical records pre-trial and did not want to be assessed, while a psychiatrist engaged by his defence declared that he displayed several classic psychopathic symptoms,” says Lee.

Chief among these was his genuine belief in his own innocence. “The psychiatrist believed that Jeremy did kill his family but had suppressed the memory until it was no longer real,” she adds.

Was this the Psychiatrist engaged by the defence who said he believed Bamber killed his family does anyone know?  Why did he refuse police access to his medical files, they must have thought he was that way inclined, funny he did not want to be assessed early, makes sense to be assessed years later?

so by that logic. the birmingham 6 would of been classed as pyscopaths.