Sheila's Clean Hands

[Caroline]

The nightdress doesn't have a collar, it has a frill running around the neckline and the blood leading up to the rifle is blood that has trickled down the stitching.

[lookout]

I honestly don't know what you're referring to, can you edit the picture to show me?

Haven't you got a magnifier ? You can see it better being as it's the same colour.

[Caroline]

You can see the frill better in this picture and the blood having run down the stitching.

[Caroline]

Haven't you got a magnifier ? You can see it better being as it's the same colour.

I don't need one - look at the picture on the above post, you can see the blood is running down the stitching and what you're calling a collar is a frill.

[lookout]

What I can see,or mean, is a line of blood with a faint herringbone pattern which looks like an impression of the necklace ( herringbone ) I don't know if this is what Jan also sees.

[Jan]

I don't need one - look at the picture on the above post, you can see the blood is running down the stitching and what you're calling a collar is a frill.

. No  that's not it .

[Jan]

. No  that's not it .

it won't let me save the picture but it could be either . But it is under the chain in line with the chain only up the the barrel of the gun.

It just seems to run in a different direction to the rest of the blood that's all and is sort of a mirror image of the wounds above .

[Caroline]

it won't let me save the picture but it could be either . But it is under the chain in line with the chain only up the the barrel of the gun.

It just seems to run in a different direction to the rest of the blood that's all and is sort of a mirror image of the wounds above .

OK, are you talking about the line below highlighted in yellow?

[lookout]

The yellow part is what I'd meant re.the herringbone pattern impressed on it.

[Caroline]

The yellow part is what I'd meant re.the herringbone pattern impressed on it.

There is no herringbone pattern  . It's the stitching Lookout - but have it your way 

[lookout]

There is no herringbone pattern  . It's the stitching Lookout - but have it your way 

Same difference I suspect,herringbone/stitching.

[Jan]

yes that's it .

Without seeing the rest of the collar in more detail its difficult to tell but I am reserving judgement .

It could have happened if her hand was put up to her throat for the first shot and she caught the collar

[Caroline]

yes that's it .

Without seeing the rest of the collar in more detail its difficult to tell but I am reserving judgement .

It could have happened if her hand was put up to her throat for the first shot and she caught the collar

It's a frill not a collar. If as you say it was a collar and it got turned up and somehow the necklace stained the collar, the shape would be in reverse. The necklace makes and upturned semi circle whereas a transference onto an upturned collar would make a down-turned semi circle when the collar turned down again.

[Jan]

Hmm. But as you said to me on another thread, you're making assumptions

I was asking a question not stating a fact .

And I thought it was mentioned in reports that she could have put her hand to her neck ?

That could have happened whoever the perpetrator was.