Questions about the bible :

[Jane]

This refutes David's post which says Sheila read the bible.

Neither of you have provided sources.

In this case I will go by the OS and CT Youtube videos. None of which provide any sources that Sheila read the bible.

What's with this bible stuff you keep making demands for sources about, Adam? I have suggested the possibility that a terrified Sheila MAY have turned to it for comfort. You, as a.......... what? Atheist, heathen, agnostic, or simply ignorant of Christian principles, clearly disagree. Because neither I nor anyone else was there, unlike you, neither I, nor others can make sweeping claims or judgements therefore, although there will be NO sources, I guess it's up for grabs.  I suppose that makes everyone's views either as likely -or unlikely-  as your own.

[David1819]

ive long suspected this.

His avatar is a photo of Jeremy, Plus his signature 'Shelia's gone crazy and has got the gun' all makes sense now

[guest154]

I could never guess who that person is mat 

Oh I think you could! 

[David1819]

You just can't dispute my points. So just focus on me. Like you did after I made 18 (now 20) irrefutable facts why Bamber could easily cycle 3 miles. But if you can dispute them, feel free.

Can you please submit you're detailed account of how Sheila committed the massacre. If you can't, just say.

You points don't prove anything so what is there to dispute?

Now that you have been exposed as a covert Bamber supporter hell bent on destroying the guilters credibility, this explains why you are so desperate to see my more detailed account of how Shelia committed the massacre.

[Adam]

What's with this bible stuff you keep making demands for sources about, Adam? I have suggested the possibility that a terrified Sheila MAY have turned to it for comfort. You, as a.......... what? Atheist, heathen, agnostic, or simply ignorant of Christian principles, clearly disagree. Because neither I nor anyone else was there, unlike you, neither I, nor others can make sweeping claims or judgements therefore, although there will be NO sources, I guess it's up for grabs.  I suppose that makes everyone's views either as likely -or unlikely-  as your own.

Well my thread post asked 'Did Sheila read the bible' ? I had never read whether she did or not.

David instantly said in red 'Yes'. But did not provide a source.

Lookout has today said Sheila did not read the bible. But has also not provided a source.

As I said, my view is she did not read the bible. Although if a source is found that she did, it's also bad news for Bamber. As the bible frowns upon murder and suicide.

[Jane]

Isn't it obvious that June had wandered around before her death,when she'd trailed droplets of blood on the carpet near to where Sheila had lain ? Then would have dropped the Bible near to Sheila before dropping to the floor herself ? Then soon after would have been when Sheila delivered to herself,the second shot ? Sheila was the last one to die.

The logistics don't work, Lookout. We have an injured June -we know the first shots happened whilst she was in bed- walking to the end of her 6ft long bed, across the bottom of this bed which could have been up to 6ft wide and along the other 6ft long side to drop a bible on a supposedly dead Sheila who is on the floor. She then has to make her way back.  She'd have been a seriously long way from Sheila by the time she was near the bedroom door and because she'd have been shielded from Sheila by the height of the bed, Sheila, who Vanezis now says didn't move after the first shot, would either have had to have crawled under the bed or stood up to deliver the fatal shot to June.

[Adam]

You points don't prove anything so what is there to dispute?

Now that you have been exposed as a covert Bamber supporter hell bent on destroying the guilters credibility, this explains why you are so desperate to see my more detailed account of how Shelia committed the massacre.

Well 20 'facts' on why Bamber would not find it difficult to cycle certainly refutes you're post suggesting it was a problem for him. A post which had no supporting facts from you.

You just focus on me because you can't refute my facts. And you haven't.

And can you please provide you're detailed account of how Sheila committed the massacre. You've had about 4 months to work it out since saying you were going to provide it. If you can't, just say.

[David1819]

What's with this bible stuff you keep making demands for sources about, Adam? I have suggested the possibility that a terrified Sheila MAY have turned to it for comfort.

There is another possibility I have considered, This can actually work for either Jeremy guilty or Innocent.

The bible is left open on the bedside table were Neville sleeps. Part of the bible is off the edge of the table like this




When Shelia is either murdered or commits suicide, as she falls back her head knocks or drags it off the table and lands right by her.

Possibility in my opinion

[Jane]

Well my thread post asked 'Did Sheila read the bible' ? I had never read whether she did or not.

David instantly said in red 'Yes'. But did not provide a source.

Lookout has today said Sheila did not read the bible. But has also not provided a source.

As I said, my view is she did not read the bible. Although if a source is found that she did, it's also bad news for Bamber. As the bible frowns upon murder and suicide.

Adam, why would YOU as opposed to any of US have read of it, one way or the other. Who is there, do you think, who COULD provide a source? You and Lookout say she did not. I say she MAY have. This, at least, is probably something Jeremy can rest easy about.

[Jane]

His avatar is a photo of Jeremy, Plus his signature 'Shelia's gone crazy and has got the gun' all makes sense now

Who on earth can that be?

[Adam]

Adam, why would YOU as opposed to any of US have read of it, one way or the other. Who is there, do you think, who COULD provide a source? You and Lookout say she did not. I say she MAY have. This, at least, is probably something Jeremy can rest easy about.

Well David and Lookout obviously have a source. Otherwise they would not say she did or didn't read the bible. 

Hopefully they will both provide their sources and everyone can decide which is the more credible source.

Although David is now claiming the bible fell open onto the floor.  On a specific page. On Sheila's blood and somehow got blood all over it.

[maggie]

There is another possibility I have considered, This can actually work for either Jeremy guilty or Innocent.

The bible is left open on the bedside table were Neville sleeps. Part of the bible is off the edge of the table like this




When Shelia is either murdered or commits suicide, as she falls back her head knocks or drags it off the table and lands right by her.

Possibility in my opinion

I agree that is a possibility, I have wondered before if the bible was on the bed and fallen onto the floor at some point.

[Jane]

Well David and Lookout obviously have a source. Otherwise they would not say she did or didn't.

Hopefully they will both provide their sources and everyone can decide which is the more credible source. Although David is now claiming the bible fell open onto the floor.

You have said she didn't. What is your source for claiming this? I can accept the possibility that the bible may have fallen on the floor.

[susan]

I agree that is a possibility, I have wondered before if the bible was on the bed and fallen onto the floor at some point.

Maggie

that makes good sense to me.

[Adam]

You have said she didn't. What is your source for claiming this? I can accept the possibility that the bible may have fallen on the floor.

In my view she didn't. For various reasons which I have mentioned. Some in post 267. Not to support my own view of guilt, as it's just as damaging to Bamber if she did read it. 

David answered my thread question with a definitive 'yes', in red. Stating it as a fact but did not provide a source. He now is suggesting it fell open onto Sheila's blood and somehow got covered in blood.

Lookout today said she did not read the bible and stated it as a fact rather than an opinion.  But has not provided a source.