Questions about the bible :

[Jane]

The same as a split personality ( which I reckon that Sheila had ) isn't always schizophrenia.

Those with split personalities almost NEVER have control over when their alter ego emerges. To date, NO ONE has come forward to suggest this of Sheila.

[Jane]

-------------not necessarily.The mind is a very complex thing between individuals.

How come, then, that "not necessarily" can apply to all who have this experience, OTHER than Sheila?

[lookout]

Because a person " hears voices " doesn't mean that they have schizophrenia either. Any sort of a trauma can cause such. A bereavement for instance where the bereaved person hears the voice of the one who's deceased. Lack of sleep is another cause.
When the body is at its lowest ebb as in depression,the mind can play tricks and imagination runs rife.

I've never fully believed that Sheila suffered schizophrenia and have always believed/felt that she was over-medicated. 

[lookout]

Lord knows,Sheila had enough trauma's in her life,beginning not long after she was born.

[Jane]

Because a person " hears voices " doesn't mean that they have schizophrenia either. Any sort of a trauma can cause such. A bereavement for instance where the bereaved person hears the voice of the one who's deceased. Lack of sleep is another cause.
When the body is at its lowest ebb as in depression,the mind can play tricks and imagination runs rife.

I've never fully believed that Sheila suffered schizophrenia and have always believed/felt that she was over-medicated.

And I don't believe you even consider that, whilst she HAD been mentally ill, the medication she was on MAY have been keeping her relatively stable, and she was, at that time, simply depressed. It occurs to me that to keep Sheila responsible for what occurred, it's NECESSARY for her to be mentally ill, or at least, ill with something, because the one thing she CAN'T be allowed to be is well.

[David1819]

There is the letter she wrote Ann. Saying one has found God are hardly the words of an atheist.

I don't know why Adam is trying to downplay Sheila's religious beliefs in order to back up the idea the bible was planted was Jeremy. Since he had already established by his genius forensic observations that Sheila could not have found the bible in a house that big   

[lookout]

And I don't believe you even consider that, whilst she HAD been mentally ill, the medication she was on MAY have been keeping her relatively stable, and she was, at that time, simply depressed. It occurs to me that to keep Sheila responsible for what occurred, it's NECESSARY for her to be mentally ill, or at least, ill with something, because the one thing she CAN'T be allowed to be is well.

You sound like her mother was when June had told Sheila while she was recuperating at WHF, that " she didn't know what it was like to be ill " ( CP's book ). Probably because June was doing all the fetching and carrying for someone less than half her age while Sheila sat back doing nothing. Even less as time went on as what happens when someone is in the depths of depression.
Neither women understood each other,and it would have seemed didn't want to except latterly for Sheila when she'd said that she'd found God. Other than that Sheila was no Bible basher.

[Caroline]

Those with split personalities almost NEVER have control over when their alter ego emerges. To date, NO ONE has come forward to suggest this of Sheila.

I think we're referring to multiple personality syndrome for which there is only anecdotal evidence and certainly ZERO evidence of Sheila suffering from it. 

[guest154]

I think we're referring to multiple personality syndrome for which there is only anecdotal evidence and certainly ZERO evidence of Sheila suffering from it. 

I think she has been diagnosed with almost every mental illness over the years.

[Adam]

I don't know why Adam is trying to downplay Sheila's religious beliefs in order to back up the idea the bible was planted was Jeremy. Since he had already established by his genius forensic observations that Sheila could not have found the bible in a house that big   

Well my question on page one was 'did Sheila know where the bible was' ?

There was a strong possibility she did not.

In her psychotic rage, shooting four people in the head, and smashing Neville's head in, there was also a strong possibility she wouldn't remember where it was. Or not even bother to think about using it.

But of course she had a read, before putting the bible onto her own blood. Before shooting herself. Twice.

[Jan]

Well my question on page one was 'did Sheila know where the bible was' ?

There was a strong possibility she did not.

In her psychotic rage, shooting four people in the head, and smashing Neville's head in, there was also a strong possibility she wouldn't remember where it was. Or not even bother to think about using it.

But of course she had a read, before putting the bible onto her own blood. Before shooting herself. Twice.

Of course she did - it used to be her home and as you well know there were 4 bibles.And two officers said when they saw the body the bible was not in that position - so who knows.

[David1819]

Well my question on page one was 'did Sheila know where the bible was' ?

There was a strong possibility she did not.

Based on what evidence? (your opinions do not count as evidence)

In her psychotic rage, shooting four people in the head, and smashing Neville's head in, there was also a strong possibility she wouldn't remember where it was. Or not even bother to think about using it.

But of course she had a read, before putting the bible onto her own blood. Before shooting herself. Twice.

Again please show evidence

Its never been proven who's blood it was on the bible

[Adam]

I don't need to give evidence to back up opinions. Just as you didn't give any sources when responding to some of my questions in red ink, on page one. Apart from a long extract from the bible, which apparently was the page Sheila had the bible on.

However when I state facts I always give a source upon request.

It seems that you are not going to give the promised detailed account of how Sheila committee the massacre. As you can't. Which is a shame. But feel free to prove me wrong, with the source.

[Adam]

It seems Bamber's supporters are more interested in trying to discredit the mountain of evidence against him, rather than showing how Sheila is guilty.

That is fair enough, but just say he's guilty but should be released as the evidence is flawed. Rather than he's innocent.

[Jane]

You sound like her mother was when June had told Sheila while she was recuperating at WHF, that " she didn't know what it was like to be ill " ( CP's book ). Probably because June was doing all the fetching and carrying for someone less than half her age while Sheila sat back doing nothing. Even less as time went on as what happens when someone is in the depths of depression.
Neither women understood each other,and it would have seemed didn't want to except latterly for Sheila when she'd said that she'd found God. Other than that Sheila was no Bible basher.

Here you go again. Quoting CP as being the definitive truth.

A) CP wasn't there

B) The words don't sound anything like the June who's been described

C) HAD June been the sort of mother who used those words, she'd have made certain they weren't witnessed.

I don't know what point you're trying to make by saying I sound like June -I'm certainly not denying that Sheila was ill. Depression is a serious and debilitating illness- who certainly wasn't denying her illness when she was willing to pay for her private care.