Questions about the bible :

[lookout]

If Sheila was sitting WHERE?!!!! June started off from the other side of the bed. She'd have needed to be close, ie, got round to Sheila's side of the bed with shot legs PLUS other gun injuries. OK, MAYBE. But she sure as HELL didn't make it back to the door where she was found when the final shot was placed.

Can you account for the drips of blood around the area where Sheila was and also those found at the window area of the " sewing room " ? Injured or not,June was still able to wander even though it seemed that Sheila hadn't/couldn't.

Sheila would have been sitting propped up with her back against the bedside cabinet,while June would only have been a yard away sitting with her back to the bedroom door which leads to downstairs.

[Jane]

Can you account for the drips of blood around the area where Sheila was and also those found at the window area of the " sewing room " ? Injured or not,June was still able to wander even though it seemed that Sheila hadn't/couldn't.

Sheila would have been sitting propped up with her back against the bedside cabinet,while June would only have been a yard away sitting with her back to the bedroom door which leads to downstairs.

So a seated and wounded Sheila manages to fire a shot between her mothers eyes as she is seated diagonally opposite her. Hmm. Remembering that a double bed is between them, are you suggesting that Sheila managed to stand and walk to the point where she had June in her sights OR perhaps she took the shot by crawling under the bed and aiming from there. Even allowing for the fact that I'm dicalculea, I KNOW that a double bed is longer and wider than one yard and the HAS to have been at least the width of the bed between them  when the last shot was taken because A) June couldn't have moved anywhere when she was dead and B ) Vanezis says Sheila didn't move after her first wound.

[Caroline]

So a seated and wounded Sheila manages to fire a shot between her mothers eyes as she is seated diagonally opposite her. Hmm. Remembering that a double bed is between them, are you suggesting that Sheila managed to stand and walk to the point where she had June in her sights OR perhaps she took the shot by crawling under the bed and aiming from there. Even allowing for the fact that I'm dicalculea, I KNOW that a double bed is longer and wider than one yard and the HAS to have been at least the width of the bed between them  when the last shot was taken because A) June couldn't have moved anywhere when she was dead and B ) Vanezis says Sheila didn't move after her first wound.

Ha, ha! was just going to post that the bed was between them - good post Jane

[Adam]

Two more questions to add to the 21 from my thread post -

According to supporters, Sheila had to have read the bible while the police were outside WHF. Could Sheila read the bible in the dark ?

According to supporters, Sheila may well have written a suicide note after the police arrived. The massacre would have taken up most of her 22 minutes. Could Sheila write in the dark ?

[Caroline]

Two more questions to add to the 21 from my thread post -

According to supporters, Sheila had to have read the bible while the police were outside WHF. Could Sheila read the bible in the dark ?

According to supporters, Sheila may well have written a suicide note after the police arrived. The massacre would have taken up most of her 22 minutes. Could Sheila write in the dark ?

To be fair Adam, I don't recall anyone making a fuss about Sheila reading the bible OR that she wrote a suicide note?

[Adam]

https://youtu.be/SH48WKZLTtc

[Adam]

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/the-bloodied-bible

[Adam]

Well there are 14 threads on the bible. Created by a variety of posters.

There has also been five threads on the suicide note. None started by me.

This thread has also got 13 pages of a response.

So not sure how you can claim no one has made a fuss about either.

The bible is a big thing as it highlights certain guilt. The suicide note is just an optimistic post trial claim by Bamber.

[Caroline]

Well there are 14 threads on the bible. Created by a variety of posters.

There has also been five threads on the suicide note. None started by me.

This thread has also got 13 pages of a response.

So not sure how you can claim no one has made a fuss about either.

The bible is a big thing as it highlights certain guilt. The suicide note is just an optimistic post trial claim by Bamber.

Just because it has been discussed in the past - doesn't mean all supporters have it locked into their own theories. It might help if you added words like 'SOME' supporters instead of lumping people ALL under the one banner.

[Adam]

Just because it has been discussed in the past - doesn't mean all supporters have it locked into their own theories. It might help if you added words like 'SOME' supporters instead of lumping people ALL under the one banner.

All supporters have to believe the bible was fetched and read by Sheila. And my 21 questions (now 23) must be adequately answered ( which they haven't). Otherwise the bible was a plant.

Supporters have the option of going along with the suicide note allegation. Or not.

[Caroline]

All supporters have to believe the bible was fetched and read by Sheila. And my 21 questions (now 23) must be adequately answered ( which they haven't). Otherwise the bible was a plant.

Supporters have the option of going along with the suicide note allegation. Or not.

No they don't, when I was a supporter, I didn't think Sheila had sat reading the bible and didn't believe there was a suicide note.

When I worked off-shore, I used to keep a bible in my rucksack because I don't like flying. Never read it though. Sheila 'could' have simply held it for comfort. This could be true whether she or Jeremy were the shooter.

[Adam]

No they don't, when I was a supporter, I didn't think Sheila had sat reading the bible and didn't believe there was a suicide note.

When I worked off-shore, I used to keep a bible in my rucksack because I don't like flying. Never read it though. Sheila 'could' have simply held it for comfort. This could be true whether she or Jeremy were the shooter.

Held it for comfort ?  But other posters have said it just fell next to Sheila.

If she didn't read it, bit of a coincidence she fetched it, and that it was on a page which posters David and Sherlock have said is the page people read prior to suicides. And covered in blood.

Sheila could have been holding the bible if Bamber was the killer ? Did he let her go and get it before shooting her ?

As I said, the suicide note is optional. Supporters are entitled to believe Bamber and the OS are being ridiculous again. 

[Caroline]

Held it for comfort ?  But other posters have said it just fell next to Sheila.

If she didn't read it, bit of a coincidence she fetched it, and that it was on a page which posters David and Sherlock have said is the page people read prior to suicides. And covered in blood.

Sheila could have been holding the bible if Bamber was the killer ? Did he let her go and get it before shooting her ?

As I said, the suicide note is optional. Supporters are entitled to believe Bamber and the OS are being ridiculous again.

You're asking for a crystal ball and answers to question no one can answer. You can make as many lists as you like but at the end of the day, they are lists of your opinion - nothing more. But don't presume to know what other people believe just because they're a supporter.

[Jane]

All supporters have to believe the bible was fetched and read by Sheila. And my 21 questions (now 23) must be adequately answered ( which they haven't). Otherwise the bible was a plant.

Supporters have the option of going along with the suicide note allegation. Or not.

WHY must they HAVE to?  Maybe no one feels the desire to answer questions they're told "must  be adequately answered"  Supporters also have the option of whether to respond to such questions -or NOT.

[Adam]

The Bible views suicide as equal to murder, which is what it is—self-murder. God is the only one who is to decide when and how a person should die. We should say with the psalmist, “My times are in your hands” (Psalm 31:15).