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« Reply #540 on: December 06, 2015, 12:52:PM »





Some psychopaths DO react to lie detectors. They're so set and keen to give the right answers that stress./anxiety and sweat show themselves. This is a FACT.

I have some difficulty in believing such are psychopaths. Another of their traits is total belief in themselves.

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« Reply #541 on: December 06, 2015, 12:56:PM »
I have some difficulty in believing such are psychopaths. Another of their traits is total belief in themselves.





I've got total belief in myself------------but I'm no psychopath.
My own personal belief is that NONE of us knows who's a psycho and who isn't and unless an MRI is performed,neither does a psychiatrist.

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« Reply #542 on: December 06, 2015, 12:58:PM »
God help anyone who doesn't believe in themselves ! What about those with terminal illnesses ? They HAVE to believe in themselves that they're going to get better--------------don't they ?

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« Reply #543 on: December 06, 2015, 01:04:PM »




I've got total belief in myself------------but I'm no psychopath.
My own personal belief is that NONE of us knows who's a psycho and who isn't and unless an MRI is performed,neither does a psychiatrist.


One trait out of numerous others hasn't yet been known to create a psychopath. Those of us who have been involved with one can certainly recognize it.

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« Reply #544 on: December 06, 2015, 01:23:PM »

One trait out of numerous others hasn't yet been known to create a psychopath. Those of us who have been involved with one can certainly recognize it.





Because I HAVE been personally involved with a psycho or two, I think I'm in a position to recognise one when I see one and without having been in close contact at all with JB I'd firmly state that he ISN'T one.
Psychopaths are strivers and don't care whose toes they tread on in getting to where they aim for. I don't see this trait in Jeremy at all otherwise he certainly wouldn't be where he is. Psychos are clever in an evil way and are always one ahead of you and crave attention and to be recognised.Or they think they're God--------untouchable.

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« Reply #545 on: December 06, 2015, 01:35:PM »




Because I HAVE been personally involved with a psycho or two, I think I'm in a position to recognise one when I see one and without having been in close contact at all with JB I'd firmly state that he ISN'T one.

Your in a position to regognize one when you see one. Yet firmly state Jeremy is not one even thou you have never seen him. Talk about contradictions.

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« Reply #546 on: December 06, 2015, 01:40:PM »




Because I HAVE been personally involved with a psycho or two, I think I'm in a position to recognise one when I see one and without having been in close contact at all with JB I'd firmly state that he ISN'T one.
Psychopaths are strivers and don't care whose toes they tread on in getting to where they aim for. I don't see this trait in Jeremy at all otherwise he certainly wouldn't be where he is. Psychos are clever in an evil way and are always one ahead of you and crave attention and to be recognised.Or they think they're God--------untouchable.


"Clever in an evil way" may have been your experience of a psychopath but it certainly doesn't describe them all and definitely not the person I was involved with. I'd be inclined to call it total arrogance on your part to wildly exclaim that Jeremy isn't one BUT for the fact he will be whatever he feels you need him to be. He sure as hell isn't going to reveal a side of him which would cause you to doubt him and he has the luxury of time in which to consider what he puts in writing. No psychopath is going to allow anyone to see them strive because it would, in all likelihood, reveal their MO, which is will be rather different from their charming and urbane surface.


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« Reply #547 on: December 06, 2015, 02:00:PM »




Because I HAVE been personally involved with a psycho or two, I think I'm in a position to recognise one when I see one and without having been in close contact at all with JB I'd firmly state that he ISN'T one.
Psychopaths are strivers and don't care whose toes they tread on in getting to where they aim for. I don't see this trait in Jeremy at all otherwise he certainly wouldn't be where he is. Psychos are clever in an evil way and are always one ahead of you and crave attention and to be recognised.Or they think they're God--------untouchable.

You have just described Jeremy Bamber down to a tee!
Few people have the imagination for reality

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« Reply #548 on: December 06, 2015, 02:16:PM »
You have just described Jeremy Bamber down to a tee!





No------a consultant who I worked with,sorry.

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« Reply #549 on: December 06, 2015, 02:19:PM »
The efficacy of the SO CALLED lie detector test has been done to death.  There is NOTHING more any EXPERT WITNESS can say than a subject satisfactorily answered certain questions. This isn't a science with 100% reliability.

Wrong, it is a science, and as the test is carried out by an expert, his 'Expert Opinion', is admissible in evidence...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #550 on: December 06, 2015, 02:23:PM »
Your in a position to regognize one when you see one. Yet firmly state Jeremy is not one even thou you have never seen him. Talk about contradictions.






I KNEW some bright spark would see my post as a contradiction,but having mulled through reams of literature on the life of JB is how I reached my conclusion that he wasn't a psychopath. 

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« Reply #551 on: December 06, 2015, 02:38:PM »
Wrong, it is a science, and as the test is carried out by an expert, his 'Expert Opinion', is admissible in evidence...


Yes, in sex offences, but as a reliable science, it remains highly questionable.

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« Reply #552 on: December 06, 2015, 02:53:PM »
It doesn't work with sex offenders.

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« Reply #553 on: December 06, 2015, 03:02:PM »
It doesn't work with sex offenders.


I'm sure the prosecuting authorities will be gratified to learn that Lookout. However, for now, my research tells me that this is the area in which they think they got the best results. Doesn't say much for the others, does it? However, as I said previously, it's reliability remains questionable

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« Reply #554 on: December 06, 2015, 03:13:PM »

I'm sure the prosecuting authorities will be gratified to learn that Lookout. However, for now, my research tells me that this is the area in which they think they got the best results. Doesn't say much for the others, does it? However, as I said previously, it's reliability remains questionable





It wasn't so long ago that some cretin had gone through the test with a negative result,released and then re-offended. It won't be the last time it happens,so going on your theory about a psychopath passing the test------------it also says that paedophiles too are psychopaths.