outlandish Theory's

[Steve_uk]

Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer passed a polygraph test. They are not infallible, especially when taken by sociopaths.

[Jane]

Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer passed a polygraph test. They are not infallible, especially when taken by sociopaths.

Steve, psycho/sociopaths are devoid of a certain self regulation that you and I know as a conscience. They have no qualms about lying so their bodies don't register the physiological changes we experience when we act deviously or untruthfully.

[Alias]

today I think any accused person would have fought tooth and nail to have the moderator evidence excluded because it was removed from the crime scene and handled in a totally non forensic way.

Love your way of thinking.

[notsure]

Witness where? Jeremy took the test after his conviction and this guy hasn't been a witness. However, it's a FACT that the test measures STRESS levels and is incorrectly referred to as a 'Lie Detector Test' so I am not incorrect in stating that HE is incorrect if he is claiming it PROVES Jeremy isn't lying.

caroline i think you are trying to simplify the test by saying it just measures stress. Im no expert in this but i am pretty sure if we googled it it wouldnt say it measures just stress.

[Jane]

caroline i think you are trying to simplify the test by saying it just measures stress. Im no expert in this but i am pretty sure if we googled it it wouldnt say it measures just stress.

You're perfectly free to do your own research but the procedure never WAS a "lie detector" but a device for measuring stress levels. It measures things like blood pressure, sweat, and changes in the skin.

[guest7363]

You're perfectly free to do your own research but the procedure never WAS a "lie detector" but a device for measuring stress levels. It measures things like blood pressure, sweat, and changes in the skin.

While your at it Notsure, read all about the fake lawyer Giovanni di Stefano who helped arrange it?

[lookout]

I can just imagine a " dumb " Jeremy carting a box of bullets upstairs after he'd scooped up what he'd wanted from the kitchen phone table,leaving an untidy mess of them.

Because Jeremy would have loaded the maximum quite easily,the spring action ? of re-loading a full quota of bullets would have been difficult for Sheila so two or three at a time seemed to have been the answer hence the " spares " in the bedroom.( Maybe that's how her nail came off initially ?)

Were any loose bullets found in his pocket btw ?     

[mike tesko]

While your at it Notsure, read all about the fake lawyer Giovanni di Stefano who helped arrange it?

Giovanni had a law degree which he obtained in Italy, so how does that make him a fake?

[Jane]

Giovanni had a law degree which he obtained in Italy, so how does that make him a fake?

I wonder from where he may have purchased it and how much it cost.

[guest7363]

Giovanni had a law degree which he obtained in Italy, so how does that make him a fake?

I suppose he was set up like Bamber then. During the trial, Southwark Crown court heard the 57-year-old had fooled clients out of millions of pounds by presenting himself as a lawyer, despite having no legal qualifications and not being registered to work as an advocate in the UK or Italy.

[lookout]

Giovanni had a law degree which he obtained in Italy, so how does that make him a fake?

So far as lawyers go,because they are clever they tend to  ( mis )use their knowledge and I don't doubt that there are a few of them in prison as we speak. I knew of 3 who'd abused their position,one of them was working for me in conveyancing and finalising a property ( I very nearly hit him ) The other one who lived like a Lord was coming up to retirement when it made headlines that he'd been so greedy it was unbelievable,and the third was imprisoned for embezzlement. All three were popular and reputable lawyers--------------WERE ! So why make an example of de Stefano ? Ah,I know why---------because he happened to have been hired by JB !!

[mike tesko]

I wonder from where he may have purchased it and how much it cost.

He studied to get that qualification in Italy. His son, Michael is doing a similar law degree in the UK. Let's get the facts right, if he has got a law degree as stated why shouldn't he be allowed to represent defendants in any of the European state criminal justice systems?

[guest7363]

He studied to get that qualification in Italy. His son, Michael is doing a similar law degree in the UK. Let's get the facts right, if he has got a law degree as stated why shouldn't he be allowed to represent defendants in any of the European state criminal justice systems?

because he got 14 years for being a fake that's why

[Jane]

He studied to get that qualification in Italy. His son, Michael is doing a similar law degree in the UK. Let's get the facts right, if he has got a law degree as stated why shouldn't he be allowed to represent defendants in any of the European state criminal justice systems?

There's a roaring trade in selling fake qualifications. Let's just hope the son is taking a legitimate route.

[lookout]

Those hiring lawyers,do you ask to see credentials ? Why not ?
 Because I will from now on if ever I needed one because of my personal mistrust of them.