outlandish Theory's

[mike tesko]

Professor Herbert Leon MacDonald claims that the body was moved the police logs/statememts confirm this yes. But the whole CPR and police killing shelia is nonsense

Police know what they did, they staged Sheila's death scene to make it look like she had killed herself. Nobody made the police do what they did. To make matters worse, the police had the audacity to blame Jeremy for staging his sisters suicide, for the purpose of fooling the police into accepting that she had taken her own life, when all along these blighters had staged her death scene themselves - how corrupt is that?

[mike tesko]

The sequence with which photographs, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33 were taken establishes beyond doubt that Detective Inspector Ron Cook, and Police Constable David Bird committed perjury during the trial about the position of the rifle at the bedroom window, in relation to that same rifle being on the body. The rifle was clearly at the bedroom window before out was on the body, but both these bent coppers swore blind that the rifle had been photographed on the body, before it was photographed at the bedroom window...

[mike tesko]

These bent coppers deliberately set out to mislead the court about how Sheila Caffells death scene had been photographed. According to Cook, the rifle had remained unmoved, untouched, since when it had been first discovered, and that he was the first officer to remove the rifle from her body after or about 10.17am. Can anybody believe such a wicked, evil, rotten bent copper? Cook did not arrive at the scene until 9.20am, and he and the other SOCO's did not assume control of the farmhouse until 10 O'clock...

[maggie]

Professor Herbert Leon MacDonald claims that the body was moved the police logs/statememts confirm this yes. But the whole CPR and police killing shelia is nonsense

I believe Sheila's body was moved by either JB or the police. I don't believe she lay exactly where was shot but neither do I believe the police shot her.

[mike tesko]

All anybody heard at the trial, and for the next 30 years in the media, is how it was Jeremy who had deliberately staged his sisters death scene on the bedroom floor by the edge of her parents bed with the family owned anshuzt rifle upon her body, so as to fool the poor police into accepting that Sheila had killed herself - when all along it had been the police themselves who had fabricated his sisters death scene...

But why?

[David1819]

Police know what they did, they staged Sheila's death scene to make it look like she had killed herself. Nobody made the police do what they did. To make matters worse, the police had the audacity to blame Jeremy for staging his sisters suicide, for the purpose of fooling the police into accepting that she had taken her own life, when all along these blighters had staged her death scene themselves - how corrupt is that?

Mike your doing Jeremy no favours with these stupid theory's.

1. Dr Fowler and Dr Vanezis confirm the shots to Sheia are contact wounds.
2. The police have no incentive to cover anthying up. If Shelia had gone crazy with the gun and killed her whole family then the armed police have every legal right to neutralise with deadly force. thus no need for cover up

3. Police believed it was Shelia until mugford came forward. The first chief on the case belived it was shelia until his accidental death.

[mike tesko]

I believe Sheila's body was moved by either JB or the police. I don't believe she lay exactly where was shot but neither do I believe the police shot her.

They did shoot her, that is why they had to tamper with the ballistic evidence, particularly the bullet which caused the first shot across the neck. That bullet was not fired via the anshuzt rifle at the scene. The bullet which replaced it was fired fired via the anshuzt, but weeks afterwards during what I have termed 'the unreported test fire of control ammunition'. The sequence with which photographs, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33 were taken establishes with certainty that it was the police who had been responsible for moving Sheila's body, the rifle and the bible. Why did the police have to move the body, and bring the rifle that was resting against the bedroom window and position it upon Sheila's body in such a way so that for the purpose of the Coroners proceedings they could declare that Banners sister had killed herself (that's the first part of the mystery). Secondly, why were police so anxious to make it look like she had shot herself, if she hadn't? Thirdly, why then blame Jeremy for doing what they themselves had done?

[maggie]

All anybody heard at the trial, and for the next 30 years in the media, is how it was Jeremy who had deliberately staged his sisters death scene on the bedroom floor by the edge of her parents bed with the family owned anshuzt rifle upon her body, so as to fool the poor police into accepting that Sheila had killed herself - when all along it had been the police themselves who had fabricated his sisters death scene...

But why?

Why indeed Mike?
I am aware police are capable of framing people but why frame Jeremy Bamber? That's a question I can't find an answer for.

[mike tesko]

Mike your doing Jeremy no favours with these stupid theory's.

1. Dr Fowler and Dr Vanezis confirm the shots to Sheia are contact wounds.
2. The police have no incentive to cover anthying up. If Shelia had gone crazy with the gun and killed her whole family then the armed police have every legal right to neutralise with deadly force. thus no need for cover up

3. Police believed it was Shelia until mugford came forward. The first chief on the case belived it was shelia until his accidental death.

First of all, it is irrelevant whether or not both shots were contact, or close contact in nature. Since, that does not determine who shot her. Secondly, you have got the wrong end of the stick when it comes down to your interpretation of a cover up. Like so many of you, you are not thinking straight. The police are responsible for creating the idea that there has been and is a cover up. The mistake they made right at the beginning of the police investigation, was that 'they' staged Sheila Caffells death scene, and then took photographs. They set Sheila's death scene to make it look like she must have shot herself. It was the police who had done this, with absolutely no encouragement from Jeremy Bamber who was not even at the farmhouse by the time police set about fabricating the death scene. They took this approach for whatever reason, no doubt intending for the matter to be dealt with through the Coroners court system. Once they took this approach they were forever doomed and entrapped by their own actions. At this juncture, I suggest you pause a little and ask yourself a series of important questions. The  first question you should ask yourself is whether or not the police did nothing wrong when they staged Sheila Caffells death scene, and then took photographs which they misused by suggesting that the ones which showed Sheila in possession of the rifle, were taken before another photograph which showed the same rifle resting against the bedroom window, when in actual fact the rifle was photographed resting against the bedroom window, before police moved it onto Sheila's body and took the other photographs - is it your suggestion that police acted lawfully and legally in this matter, and would you be happy if you yourself were ever at some point in the future subjected to similar tactics that might get you convicted?

[Caroline]

Why indeed Mike?
I am aware police are capable of framing people but why frame Jeremy Bamber? That's a question I can't find an answer for.

Me Either and that's where it starts and ends really!

[mike tesko]

Why indeed Mike?
I am aware police are capable of framing people but why frame Jeremy Bamber? That's a question I can't find an answer for.

The police did not set out to frame Jeremy Bamber, that's where everybody is going wrong. The police staged Sheila's death scene, then took photographs and built up a false story suggesting the firearm officers had found her body, and the rifle, exactly as shown in the photographs which were taken after the rifle had been brought from the window and placed onto her body. To put it another way, the police originally set out to frame Sheila Caffell for shooting the others, and then herself. I am saying that because the anshuzt rifle was photographed leaning against the bedroom window before it was photographed upon Sheila Caffells body, that the photographs themselves were not reliable and in fact have been misused to fool a jury into thinking that the photographs they looked at and were shown represented how the prosecution claimed Jeremy Bamber had set the scene. But the truth of the matter is that those photographs represented how the police themselves had staged Sheila's death scene in order to frame her for killing the others, and taking her own life...

Now, what I am saying is, that what the police have done here, is introduce false photographic material upon the jury in a significantly misleading manner...

[mike tesko]

Me Either and that's where it starts and ends really!

So, you think that it is alright for a police officer to fabricate evidence and commit perjury?

If you were a victim of this kind of corruption you would think differently...

[mike tesko]

Nobody made the police do anything they did not want to do, or had done. Police were in control of the scene. Why couldn't they have photographed the bodies including Sheila's before they moved or touched anything? Why, did they have to move and touch bodies and things and then taken photographs, which they liked about once the nature of the investigation changed from the Coroners court system, into a case in the Criminal Justice system? The answer is that when the case was being prepared to go through the Coroners court system, it did not matter that police had staged amongst other things Sheila Caffells death scene, because there was no defendant at peril of being convicted as having played a role in the shootings. However, once the nature of the investigation changed into a Criminal matter with Jeremy Bamber the focus of changed investigation, police were stuck with a series of dodgy crime scene photographs, staged ones. The only way police could hope to get around this problem, was to hide a large number of photographs taken at the scene on the first day of the investigation, because most if not all of the ones which became hidden or withheld contained evidence that the police had inadvertently contaminated the crime scene, and then taken photographs in the aftermath of their own actions...

[Caroline]

So, you think that it is alright for a police officer to fabricate evidence and commit perjury?

If you were a victim of this kind of corruption you would think differently...

No I don't think it's OK and you don't know anything about me - I have experience of police corruption, you don't have the monopoly on that! However, Bamber is guilty and I believe that 100%

[John]

The police did not set out to frame Jeremy Bamber, that's where everybody is going wrong. The police staged Sheila's death scene, then took photographs and built up a false story suggesting the firearm officers had found her body, and the rifle, exactly as shown in the photographs which were taken after the rifle had been brought from the window and placed onto her body. To put it another way, the police originally set out to frame Sheila Caffell for shooting the others, and then herself. I am saying that because the anshuzt rifle was photographed leaning against the bedroom window before it was photographed upon Sheila Caffells body, that the photographs themselves were not reliable and in fact have been misused to fool a jury into thinking that the photographs they looked at and were shown represented how the prosecution claimed Jeremy Bamber had set the scene. But the truth of the matter is that those photographs represented how the police themselves had staged Sheila's death scene in order to frame her for killing the others, and taking her own life...

Now, what I am saying is, that what the police have done here, is introduce false photographic material upon the jury in a significantly misleading manner...

Absolute tosh.  The police had no reason to stage anything, that was all accomplished by Jeremy Bamber in a half-baked attempt to frame his 'deranged' sister.

You theories hold no water Mike, your claim that a policeman shot Sheila is utter nonsense so you concoct the police staged the rifle story in an attempt to give it some credence.  I'm afraid none of it works and as Caroline pointed out, Jeremy Bamber is guilty.