outlandish Theory's

[lookout]

Prisons are full of those.

Name loads besides Jeremy who have been pleading for 30 years.

[Caroline]

Name loads besides Jeremy who have been pleading for 30 years.

there are literally thousands Lookout - you didn't think Jeremy was the only one did you? 

[lookout]

there are literally thousands Lookout - you didn't think Jeremy was the only one did you? 

I asked how many after 30 years were still pleading their innocence.

[guest154]

there are literally thousands Lookout - you didn't think Jeremy was the only one did you? 

I don't think anyone is guilty that is in prison (according to them). 

[notsure]

I think we tend to veer away from the fact that jeremy was convicted on circumstantial evidence.

People are entitled to say they dont believe that evidence just as they are that they  , ogherwise what would we be discussing.

i think wiggy has some very valid points

[Caroline]

I asked how many after 30 years were still pleading their innocence.

Anyone who had a trial is fighting against the the charge, people who plea guilty are basically sentenced. Many of these people still claim innocence AFTER conviction. I can't believe you think Jeremy is the only one. I know there are thousands - most people on the board should know the same, you're asking for an impossible task to provide a number. Do some research and you'll find your assumption is wrong!

[lookout]

Anyone who had a trial is fighting against the the charge, people who plea guilty are basically sentenced. Many of these people still claim innocence AFTER conviction. I can't believe you think Jeremy is the only one. I know there are thousands - most people on the board should know the same, you're asking for an impossible task to provide a number. Do some research and you'll find your assumption is wrong!

Bloody Hell,I didn't say he was the only one at all--------------you intimated that,not me !

[Caroline]

Bloody Hell,I didn't say he was the only one at all--------------you intimated that,not me !

He's just one of many chancing his arm.

[wiggy]

actually most who are convicted then actually admit there guilt and they have to attend classes in prison to show remorse.

If they don't they don't qualify for early parole.

There are only about 30 cases in uk prisons that have been given full life sentences where it would make no difference changing your plea once convicted JB being one

However he originally didn't have a full life sentence think it was 20/25 years .

To maintain your innocent after you have been convicted is stupid even if you are innocent so there are not many that continue to plead there innocence after conviction.

There are somr of course but its not usual

[Caroline]

actually most who are convicted then actually admit there guilt and they have to attend classes in prison to show remorse.

If they don't they don't qualify for early parole.

There are only about 30 cases in uk prisons that have been given full life sentences where it would make no difference changing your plea once convicted JB being one

However he originally didn't have a full life sentence think it was 20/25 years .

To maintain your innocent after you have been convicted is stupid even if you are innocent so there are not many that continue to plead there innocence after conviction.

There are somr of course but its not usual

There are more than a few who haven't admitted guilt and in Jeremy's case, it would do him no good to admit any responsibility because he would simply be admitting he's child killer - the worst of the worst in UK prisons and he would lose all the attention and just be a target!

[wiggy]

as i said in a full life sentence there would be no point in admitting guilt to get early parole your correct.

But i bet you cant name names of all those who havent admitted guilt to reduce time spent inside.

You cant just say there are loads without any facts

It is a fact that most admit guilt not all as they also need to take classes to show remorse to get parole
there are not many that do not do this.

In fact many of the ones that have pleaded innocent have been acquitted Barry George as an example all circumstantial evidence no proof.

[Caroline]

as i said in a full life sentence there would be no point in admitting guilt to get early parole your correct.

But i bet you cant name names of all those who havent admitted guilt to reduce time spent inside.

You cant just say there are loads without any facts

It is a fact that most admit guilt not all as they also need to take classes to show remorse to get parole
there are not many that do not do this.

In fact many of the ones that have pleaded innocent have been acquitted Barry George as an example all circumstantial evidence no proof.

Of course I can say it because it's true - how about you name names of those that have admitted guilt after trial? I bet like me, you don't have time (or the inclination) to sit down and waste that amount of time. Many have been acquitted? That's just BS! 

[lebaleb]

I don't think anyone is guilty that is in prison (according to them). 

As has been proven since the advent of DNA testing more than a few were or are innocent.

[guest154]

As has been proven since the advent of DNA testing more than a few were or are innocent.

And I'm sure many aren't! I think you're missing the point  - if prisoners were let out because they claim to be innocent, then prisons would be empty.

[lebaleb]

I didn't miss you erroneous point. In fact most people in prison do accept their guilt because there is no element of doubt in their case.