Main planks of the innocence stance. Plausible or laughable ?

[Jan]

The  main thing supporters dispute about my point by point explanation is how he managed to successfully get Sheila to allow to be shot.

My recent posts have shown it is almost certain she did not wake up prior to it being her turn. A silencer makes the rifle almost silent, while the kitchen fight was downstairs in a big house.

So while half asleep Bamber got her to get out of bed and move her about 20 feet. She was either persuaded, lead at gunpoint, carried or a combination of all three.

There is no proof Sheila didn't resist a little bit. Bamber did need two shots.

Adam your recent posts have NOT shown it is almost certain she did not wake up.  A silencer is actually a moderator to DELAY the sound for rabbits there would still be a noise.

there is no evidence to show at any point that she was carried - why would she be?

[Adam]

Adam your recent posts have NOT shown it is almost certain she did not wake up.  A silencer is actually a moderator to DELAY the sound for rabbits there would still be a noise.

there is no evidence to show at any point that she was carried - why would she be?

Did you see my Youtube video on a silencer. Even Scipio has not disputed it.

As a man, once someone as light as Sheila was standing up, it would be quite easy to then carry her 15 feet. Poor Sheila would only be half asleep and not know what was happening until it was too late.

[Jan]

Did you see my Youtube video on a silencer. Even Scipio has not disputed it.

As a man, once someone as light as Sheila was standing up, it would be quite easy to then carry her 15 feet. Poor Sheila would only be half asleep and not know what was happening until it was too late.

Where was the rifle when he was carrying her?

[Adam]

Where was the rifle when he was carrying her?

He put it down. Everyone else was dead.

[Jan]

He put it down. Everyone else was dead.

So you think Neville and June were totally silent when they were being shot/beaten up /wandering up and down stairs and Sheila slept through it all .

then he put the rifle down went and lifted her from her bed - laid her down and she did not even wake up when he then had to pick up the rifle?

Even if Jeremy is guilty I think you are the only one who believes this scenario.

[Jan]

Adam if he was wandering round from room to room walking over the blood  of June and Neville why did he not leave any marks when he left the house - or did he float out?

[Adam]

So you think Neville and June were totally silent when they were being shot/beaten up /wandering up and down stairs and Sheila slept through it all .

then he put the rifle down went and lifted her from her bed - laid her down and she did not even wake up when he then had to pick up the rifle?

Even if Jeremy is guilty I think you are the only one who believes this scenario.

June silent - Yes. She was shot while asleep. Several times.  Once in the throat.

Neville silent - Yes. He was shot four times upstairs and could not speak.

The twins silent - Yes. They were sleeping.

The silencer impossible for Sheila to hear - Yes. Video posted.

The kitchen fight silent - No, but brief and downstairs in a big house.

[Adam]

Once everyone was dead Bamber just had to get Sheila out of bed and to where most of the shooting took place. Which was only a few feet from where she was sleeping.

He could put the rifle down, in the main bedroom. Then open Sheila's bedroom door.

He could attempt to persuade her to come with him to the main bedroom. Being Sheila's brother there is no reason why Sheila would resist. If she did see June lying down in the main bedroom and started to resist, Bamber could use his superior power to restrain her and shoot her.

Or Bamber could just wait until a half asleep Sheila was standing up, then carry her a few feet. Which would take less than ten seconds.

Or as Scipio suggested ,  Sheila was woken and  lead at gunpoint.

[Jan]

But the blood on the floor where Sheila was found was junes so she must have been wandering around and you have no idea of the sequence of shots at all.

You are making things fit your required scenario.

At the dead of night with shots /fights /dogs barking I would suggest the house was NOT silent.

[Adam]

But the blood on the floor where Sheila was found was junes so she must have been wandering around and you have no idea of the sequence of shots at all.

You are making things fit your required scenario.

At the dead of night with shots /fights /dogs barking I would suggest the house was NOT silent.

I'm not making anything up.

Unlike supporters I've given a point by point account of how Bamber committed the crime. Based on the crime scene evidence.

The only thing supporters go on about is how Sheila ended up in the main bedroom.

The possibility she woke and moved there is almost zero. As my Youtube video highlights. Similar to the twins, Sheila almost certainly slept until it was her turn.

There are lots of ways Bamber could have got Sheila out of bed and a few feet into another bedroom. Which I have mentioned.

[Adam]

Oh alright then, Sheila may have woken and gone into the main bedroom.

Saw that June was dead and froze with fear when seeing a gunman approach her.

Either way, she was shot by someone else.

[Caroline]

Did you see my Youtube video on a silencer. Even Scipio has not disputed it.

As a man, once someone as light as Sheila was standing up, it would be quite easy to then carry her 15 feet. Poor Sheila would only be half asleep and not know what was happening until it was too late.

She was carried - it's a ridiculous suggestion.

[Adam]

If Sheila walked to the main bedroom, either by herself, or with Bamber's assistance, would she not have June's blood on her feet ?

Or did she jump over June's blood ?

If she woke herself and went into the main bedroom, she would surely go up to June. How could her feet be so clean ?

[Adam]

She was carried - it's a ridiculous suggestion.

It's a very plausible suggestion.

As a man, I am fully aware that I could carry a light half asleep female 15 feet.

But if you think Sheila was lead at gunpoint that is up to you.

[Jane]

I'm not making anything up.

Unlike supporters I've given a point by point account of how Bamber committed the crime. Based on the crime scene evidence.

The only thing supporters go on about is how Sheila ended up in the main bedroom.

The possibility she woke and moved there is almost zero. As my Youtube video highlights. Similar to the twins, Sheila almost certainly slept until it was her turn.

There are lots of ways Bamber could have got Sheila out of bed and a few feet into another bedroom. Which I have mentioned.

As far as 5 people being shot dead, you're not making anything up, for the rest, all you've done is give your own point by point opinion.