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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1215 on: January 28, 2017, 09:43:AM »
A shot to Nevill's arm would be a downward trajectory even if Nevill was fully upright. More so from Bamber as he was taller than Sheila and wearing shoes.

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« Reply #1216 on: January 28, 2017, 09:49:AM »
Nevill being shot while retreating on the stairs would account for the next downward trajectory.
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« Reply #1217 on: January 28, 2017, 09:52:AM »
There was little difference in height between Jeremy and his sister. She probably towered over him in her high heels. Doesn't mean to say she was any less strong though.

See the big powerful 60 year old man who was over-powered by a slight 32 year old woman-------who held a gun to him ?? The clue is there somewhere !

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1218 on: January 28, 2017, 09:57:AM »
I have always believed Nevill's two bedroom face shots were when he was getting out of bed. Awake and aware there was someone in the bedroom. The shots were only a few inches from his face.

David has said the evidence does not show this happened and I am waiting for his independent source of the cartridge locations, so I can re evaluate or confirm my original belief.
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« Reply #1219 on: January 28, 2017, 10:04:AM »
There was little difference in height between Jeremy and his sister. She probably towered over him in her high heels. Doesn't mean to say she was any less strong though.

See the big powerful 60 year old man who was over-powered by a slight 32 year old woman-------who held a gun to him ?? The clue is there somewhere !

Sheila wore high heels during the massacre ?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1220 on: January 28, 2017, 10:06:AM »
Not enough blood in/on the bed to say that that's where Neville was first shot. It's more blood volume that you should study as opposed to cartridge cases,which could have been kicked along from those not looking where they were walking.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1221 on: January 28, 2017, 10:12:AM »
Obviously there is no possibility an awake Nevill would have let Sheila load the magazine cartridge into the rifle, then let her go upstairs with it. Preferring to ring Bamber at 3am than stop Sheila before she started.

There is also no possibility Bamber answered the phone at the same time Sheila started shooting June upstairs. Which was around 15 seconds later. Bamber said he was sleeping 'like a log' upstairs.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1222 on: January 28, 2017, 10:13:AM »
Equally ridiculous is Nevill somehow heard the upstairs shots & charged upstairs bare footed in pyjamas. Then let Sheila get the rifle within inches of his face, before retreating straight back downstairs.

Nevill would have run upstairs with the sole purpose to instantly jump on Sheila.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1223 on: January 28, 2017, 10:18:AM »
Not enough blood in/on the bed to say that that's where Neville was first shot. It's more blood volume that you should study as opposed to cartridge cases,which could have been kicked along from those not looking where they were walking.

There was no time for any of Nevill's blood to drip onto the carpet. He was heading downstairs within seconds.

If an independent diagram of the 13 cartridge locations is not posted. Or everyone believes they are unreliable, I will stick with the view that Nevill received his face shots while in the process standing up.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1224 on: January 28, 2017, 10:21:AM »
Sheila wore high heels during the massacre ?
Not Jeremy then?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1225 on: January 28, 2017, 10:25:AM »
Sheila wore high heels during the massacre ?




D'oh ! I was pointing out how tall Sheila was in comparison to Jeremy,taller still in high heels. In other words there was probably only a couple of inches difference between them,without shoes  ::)

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1226 on: January 28, 2017, 10:27:AM »
Not Jeremy then?




He might have done to " over-power " his father.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1227 on: January 28, 2017, 10:28:AM »



D'oh ! I was pointing out how tall Sheila was in comparison to Jeremy,taller still in high heels. In other words there was probably only a couple of inches difference between them,without shoes  ::)

I have read that Bamber was 6 feet. Sheila 5.7. So a five inch difference. Bamber was wearing shoes, so call it 6 inches.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1228 on: January 28, 2017, 10:35:AM »
I have read that Bamber was 6 feet. Sheila 5.7. So a five inch difference. Bamber was wearing shoes, so call it 6 inches.





And I'd read that Sheila was 5' 8,so there you are,so many conflicting reports. However,regardless of height,which doesn't necessarily come into having the same strength ,it makes no difference.   

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1229 on: January 28, 2017, 10:37:AM »
I don't really see how it matters either.

With regards to the tampax box found in the living room, it strikes me as being out of place. It's not something that you would expect to have been left lying around.

Could Jeremy have placed it there along with a toy gun?
Hartley:
I have little idea of your interest in this case, but let me suggest you seem to require affirmation of the guilty verdict, and accordingly will use band aids to patch the case.
Attention must be drawn to the bloody knickers in the bucket in the kitchen, and the half tampax that the policeman I posted earlier, said was missing, ie the cotton and string loop that were inside Sheila's body when she shot herself.

I have been unable in my research to find anyone who has ever had a daughter leave menstrual blood on knickers soaking in a bucket on a kitchen floor before going to bed.
This is so singular that an alternative explanation must be found. This is Bayes, though I hold little regard for this statistical methodology. It is a device employed to add authenticity to the tin labelled common sense, largely redundant, but enlivens the notion of expert witness.

So we typically might multiply probabilities, I get murdered, I leave my knickers soaking in a bucket in my mother's kitchen and leave a tampon applicator in her lounge, then go to bed, all on the same night.

My analysis inverts this to say these matters are closely causally related, I was interrupted after putting the knickers in the bucket, had an argument with he who interrupted me, he was party to a discussion declaring me an unfit mother, so I seized an available and loaded gun and shot the mother fuckers.
The bucket and tampax bear silent witness.

Please Hartley, bring to the discussion an explanation that contradicts this, but explains a young woman retiring to bed after leaving a disgraceful and negligent hygiene construct.