Neville's call to Jeremy. A 1% likelihood ?

[Adam]

I shall speak to you any way I choose just as you speak to others in the same way.  Why was it necessary to drag that up, it was all over and done with a few days ago and I asked you not to mention it on the forum but you just can't help yourself.  You were the one who brought it up.  It was goading Adam and you know it.

It's just that the dear ladies on here call other posters 'prats', 'arseholes', 'brain dead', 'posting BS', 'liars'.

If you edit the post after the thread has moved onto the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it.

If it is worthy of editing, it is worthy of mentioning. Obviously if you are only going to announce it on here when it is me, (although I never call people names) as you just suggested you will, that is blatant discrimination.

[Caroline]

It's just that the dear ladies on here call other posters 'prats', 'arseholes', 'brain dead', 'posting BS', 'liars'.

If you edit the post after the thread has moved onto the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it.

If it is worthy of editing, it is worthy of mentioning. Obviously if you are only going to announce it on here when it is me, (although I never call people names) as you just suggested you will, that is blatant discrimination.

Perhaps you don't call people names but you seem to take pleasure in goading people - you drive them to call you names then whine about it. Why can't you just exchange case ideas without having to goad?

[Jane]

It's just that the dear ladies on here call other posters 'prats', 'arseholes', 'brain dead', 'posting BS', 'liars'.

If you edit the post after the thread has moved onto the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it.

If it is worthy of editing, it is worthy of mentioning. Obviously if you are only going to announce it on here when it is me, (although I never call people names) as you just suggested you will, that is blatant discrimination.

"If you edit the post after the thread has moved to the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it"  O - M - G!!!!!!!!! MAGGIE, I THINK HE'S THREATENING YOU.

[Jane]

Perhaps you don't call people names but you seem to take pleasure in goading people - you drive them to call you names then whine about it. Why can't you just exchange case ideas without having to goad?

Howz about because he likes to think he's top dog. He thinks he has more intelligent things to say than all the rest of us put together and thinks he can prove it by pushing quantity over quality.

[Caroline]

Howz about because he likes to think he's top dog. He thinks he has more intelligent things to say than all the rest of us put together and thinks he can prove it by pushing quantity over quality.

 

Nah! Surely not!!

[lookout]

And he has the blooming cheek to call ME an attention-seeker. Cor.

[Jan]

It's just that the dear ladies on here call other posters 'prats', 'arseholes', 'brain dead', 'posting BS', 'liars'.

If you edit the post after the thread has moved onto the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it.

If it is worthy of editing, it is worthy of mentioning. Obviously if you are only going to announce it on here when it is me, (although I never call people names) as you just suggested you will, that is blatant discrimination.

How amusing - dear ladies .

[lookout]

Hilarious.

[maggie]

"If you edit the post after the thread has moved to the next page, without saying anything to the poster on here, they will keep doing it"  O - M - G!!!!!!!!! MAGGIE, I THINK HE'S THREATENING YOU.

Hi haven't been able to get on the forum since my last post so have just seen this. I shall read the posts

[scipio_usmc]

Everyone is assuming Sheila woke up. There is no reason why she would wake. Thread already created. The twins didn't wake.

If she didn't wake, she was either lead or carried away from her bed. She had to be as she was the one being framed.

Going back for the rifle ? It would be next to him and Sheila on Neville's bed.

If she was asleep when he entered her room then he woke her up and moved her at gunpoint.  The notion he planned to carry her away without her waking up until after he placed her where he wanted her to be and had a chance to pick the gun up again is absurd.

[Adam]

If she was asleep when he entered her room then he woke her up and moved her at gunpoint.  The notion he planned to carry her away without her waking up until after he placed her where he wanted her to be and had a chance to pick the gun up again is absurd.

So he woke her up and lead her at gunpoint to the main bedroom. Across a dead June on the floor. Sheila not fighting back.

You said yourself it would be easy for Bamber to physically pick up Sheila. Lifting her ten feet is very easy.

Just put the rifle on Neville's bed and go to an asleep Sheila.

Put one arm under her knees, another arm under her back and spend ten seconds carrying her ten feet. There is no reason why she would wake, or if she did start to wake she would not have a clue what was happening. She would not have time to fight back.

Get the rifle, which is next to Bamber on the bed and shoot Sheila. Simple.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5526.msg277556.html#msg277556

It's very unlikely Sheila woke. Thread above.

[Adam]

Bamber crept upstairs = No noise. No one woke.

It was 2am. People are usually in a deep sleep =:No noise heard.

Sheila may have been under sedation according to the 2002 appeal = No noise heard.

Her bedroom door may have been shut = No noise audible.

Bamber may have shut main bedroom door before shooting June and Neville = No audible noise for Sheila to hear.

A silencer was used = Minimal and reduced noise.

The twins did not wake = No noise from them.

June was shot & died in/by the bed = No noise from her. 

Neville & Jeremy went downstairs = Minimal short term noise.

There was a brief but brutal fight = Noise in another part of the large WHF.

Time process from Bamber's WHF entrance to Sheila's killing ,5 - 10 minutes = Short term bits of noise. Mainly downstairs.

[Adam]

It is almost certain Sheila did not wake. I don't go along with the theories that she slept with June & Neville. Or was in the main bedroom praying out loud.

So Sheila was either woken and lead at gunpoint without putting up resistance. Or was carried ten feet. Which was physically easy to do as Sheila was very light. 

If I wanted to move someone ten feet and shoot them without resistance, I know what I would attempt.

[susan]

It is almost certain Sheila did not wake. I don't go along with the theories that she slept with June & Neville. Or was in the main bedroom praying out loud.

So Sheila was either woken and lead at gunpoint without putting up resistance. Or was carried ten feet. Which was physically easy to do as Sheila was very light.

If I wanted to move someone ten feet and shoot them without resistance, I know what I would attempt.

Adam Sheila probably heard the noise coming from the main bedroom and went to see what was happening or Ralph stood outside her bedroom door and told her to go and look after June then he went downstairs to try and use the phone you know what happened next.