Neville's call to Jeremy. A 1% likelihood ?

[Jane]

If Sheila was in the main bedroom that night, I think she would have been there to sleep - either because June was worried about her (as per the call to Pam) or she wanted to be nearer the twins. I find it hard to believe there was any 'bible reading' and if she did sleep there, it was simply for convenience.

It's likely that any bible reading would have been done by June. I believe it to have been her bedtime habit. WOULD she have foregone this because Sheila was there? I certainly don't believe there to have been a bible class.

[Jan]

If Sheila was in the main bedroom that night, I think she would have been there to sleep - either because June was worried about her (as per the call to Pam) or she wanted to be nearer the twins. I find it hard to believe there was any 'bible reading' and if she did sleep there, it was simply for convenience.

yes or they could have just laid on the bed having a heart to heart.

Which would mean that if Jeremy is the killer he came across them both lain on the bed. wonder what Sheila was doing whilst he shot her mother?

Waiting to be laid down to be shot in the correct position to look like suicide?

[Jane]

yes or they could have just laid on the bed having a heart to heart.

Which would mean that if Jeremy is the killer he came across them both lain on the bed. wonder what Sheila was doing whilst he shot her mother?

Waiting to be laid down to be shot in the correct position to look like suicide?

Frozen with fear? Rigid with shock? Reading the bible out loud?

[Adam]

Jan I have thought that Sheila may have been on the double bed with June and Ralph in Sheila's room but what puzzles me the beds in there do not look slept in although AE did say she was surprised the other bed (not Sheila's) was made up ready for sleeping in.  As you have quoted none of us know what happened we can only speculate and that includes Adam.

I just say what I think happened.

To be fair my detailed point by point scenario matches the crime scene and bullet allocation. CAL has a slightly different scenario, and so do the police. But at least they have scenarios, unlike supporters.

Or I give my opinion on other peoples views. Jan thought Sheila may have just been waving the gun around. Or that Sheila had forced Neville to call Bamber. Of which I gave my opinions.

[Jan]

I just say what I think happened.

To be fair my detailed point by point scenario matches the crime scene and bullet allocation. CAL has a slightly different scenario, and so do the police. But at least they have scenarios, unlike supporters.

Or I give my opinion on other peoples views. Jan thought Sheila may have just been waving the gun around. Or that Sheila had forced Neville to call Bamber. Of which I gave my opinions.

Adam - everyone has provided scenarios. They mean diddily squat.

And you have changed yours - remember the one where Sheila was carried asleep to be shot?

[Adam]

I think possibly at one stage June and Sheila could have been talking or reading the bible and perhaps Neville laid on top of the other bed not wanting to disturb them - But who knows what happened after that ? There are lots of scenarios

perhaps Sheila could not sleep and went downstairs ? Perhaps Neville heard her and went down stairs ?

who knows.

Perhaps Neville and June went to bed in their normal bed in the main bedroom. They were shot there.

Perhaps Sheila went to bed in the spare bedroom she had been allocated.

Stranger things have happened.

[maggie]

Perhaps Neville and June went to bed in their normal bed in the main bedroom. They were shot there.

Perhaps Sheila went to bed in the bedroom she had been allocated.

Stranger things have happened.

Adam how do you account for the stuffed toy in the bed?  Jeremy told Caroline it was Nevill's but can you believe that he and June slept with it in their bed?

[Adam]

Adam - everyone has provided scenarios. They mean diddily squat.

And you have changed yours - remember the one where Sheila was carried asleep to be shot?

I haven't changed that.

There are lots of ways Sheila could have ended up in the main bedroom.

Bamber was perfectly capable of carrying an asleep Sheila a few feet.

[susan]

Perhaps Neville and June went to bed in their normal bed in the main bedroom. They were shot there.

Perhaps Sheila went to bed in the bedroom she had been allocated.

Stranger things have happened.

Adam
it has been established that blood belonging to Ralph was found outside Sheila's bedroom and it would appear that none of his blood was found in the main bedroom.

[Caroline]

yes or they could have just laid on the bed having a heart to heart.

Which would mean that if Jeremy is the killer he came across them both lain on the bed. wonder what Sheila was doing whilst he shot her mother?

Waiting to be laid down to be shot in the correct position to look like suicide?

No, I have my own ideas about that but I'm not saying at the moment.

[Adam]

Adam how do you account for the stuffed toy in the bed?  Jeremy told Caroline it was Nevill's but can you believe that he and June slept with it in their bed?

Stuffed toy ?

[maggie]

I haven't changed that.

There are lots of ways Sheila could have ended up in the main bedroom.

Bamber was perfectly capable of carrying an asleep Sheila a few feet.

Why would Jeremy take the risk or put himself to the trouble of carrying Sheila all that way when there was no need for her to be found in the main bedroom? 

[susan]

Adam how do you account for the stuffed toy in the bed?  Jeremy told Caroline it was Nevill's but can you believe that he and June slept with it in their bed?

Maggie why would Jeremy need to tell lies about the stuffed toy in the bed none of this makes sense to me it could have been one of the twins who put the toy in the bed.  Sheila would not have taken a toy to bed with her it is all so strange

[Caroline]

Stuffed toy ?

The MASSIVE teddy bear in the middle of the bed!!

[maggie]

Stuffed toy ?

In the photographs of June and Nevill's bed there is what has been described as a teddy bear in the bed, don't you find that a bit curious?