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[lookout]

I can be like that.It's called shutting off.When a person doesn't mean anything to you,i.e.is not a relative,then I can't see that it matters.

[notsure]

Then it's either very lucky or very sad that you're capable of eliminating emotions as if they have never existed, Notsure.

blimey jane thats a bit deep isnt it?

what would be wrong in thinking that if we found 100% proof that he was guilty i would be able to forget it.

Why would i feel anything for him then. I would be able to get on with my life without worrying that there had been a MOJ and an innocent man wasnt rotting in prison

my emotions are clear. I am unsure about his guilt and that concerns and worries me.

[susan]

I can be like that.It's called shutting off.When a person doesn't mean anything to you,i.e.is not a relative,then I can't see that it matters.

Lookout I think like you Jeremy Bamber means nothing to me but if he is innocent it is one heck of a shame being in prison for so long for a crime he did not commit

[Adam]

If I found out I could fly it would a heck of a shame I have been getting a bus everywhere this year.

[Jane]

I can be like that.It's called shutting off.When a person doesn't mean anything to you,i.e.is not a relative,then I can't see that it matters.

Lookout, you sound as if you're saying that you can choose what, or not, to feel.

[Jane]

blimey jane thats a bit deep isnt it?

what would be wrong in thinking that if we found 100% proof that he was guilty i would be able to forget it.

Why would i feel anything for him then. I would be able to get on with my life without worrying that there had been a MOJ and an innocent man wasnt rotting in prison

my emotions are clear. I am unsure about his guilt and that concerns and worries me.

Notsure, thinking isn't feeling. Thinking is about reason. Feeling is about emotion. Emotions aren't light switches to be flicked on and off.

[susan]

Lookout, you sound as if you're saying that you can choose what, or not, to feel.

Hi Jane
I have no emotions towards Jeremy Bamber one way or another and I took Lookout to mean the same but perhaps I  read her post wrong. Just read the post again and I agree Lookout seems to be saying she can shut her emotions off I have none to start with

[lookout]

Lookout, you sound as if you're saying that you can choose what, or not, to feel.

Don't we all in a given situation ?

[notsure]

Notsure, thinking isn't feeling. Thinking is about reason. Feeling is about emotion. Emotions aren't light switches to be flicked on and off.

hang on a minute jane. Im sure your profession allows you to decide what a person thinks and feels but i dont think you know me and so couldnt have an opinion on what my thoughrs and opinions and emotions are. You are basing that comment on a single sentence which i dont think is fair and its a pretty personal thing to do.

I think if i get you right you are trying to say that i would feel some emotion if he were guilty or innocent.of course i would but i would not be spending too much time feeling anything but pity for a mass murderer who had spent 30 years claiming innocence.

and you feel emotion dont you.

[Caroline]

Having thought he was innocent, I felt sorry for him, now I think he's guilty and having conversed with him a little, I can't say I dislike him - I just hate what he did and think he's where he should be and where he should stay.

[Jane]

Don't we all in a given situation ?

No Lookout, absolutely not. Feelings are about how we respond to situations, inanimate objects, people. Whilst we can't choose the feelings, we CAN choose how we use them.

[lookout]

No Lookout, absolutely not. Feelings are about how we respond to situations, inanimate objects, people. Whilst we can't choose the feelings, we CAN choose how we use them.

Of course we all know how to respond in certain situations.We don't " choose " to mourn at a funeral,it's a natural reflex to sob/cry. It's got nothing to do with choosing.

[maggie]

Having thought he was innocent, I felt sorry for him, now I think he's guilty and having conversed with him a little, I can't say I dislike him - I just hate what he did and think he's where he should be and where he should stay.

I think it's a different situation to support someone from a distance because you believe them to have suffered injustice rather than to be closely involved with someone in the same situation.  If you have a close relationship and give up time and money and emotion to help prove innocence you can invest heavily in that person, then discover such a person doesn't really exist and instead of a wronged and innocent person you have been supporting a murderer....  not so easy to deal with imo

[Jane]

hang on a minute jane. Im sure your profession allows you to decide what a person thinks and feels but i dont think you know me and so couldnt have an opinion on what my thoughrs and opinions and emotions are. You are basing that comment on a single sentence which i dont think is fair and its a pretty personal thing to do.

I think if i get you right you are trying to say that i would feel some emotion if he were guilty or innocent.of course i would but i would not be spending too much time feeling anything but pity for a mass murderer who had spent 30 years claiming innocence.

and you feel emotion dont you.

Notsure, the one thing I'm not capable of is deciding what individuals think and feel (NOR is it my job. THAT is about encouraging people to express their feelings. It isn't up to me to tell anyone what they should, or NOT feel. It's about THEIR feelings, not mine) but there are only so many appropriate emotions available to us -I can't magic new ones out of the ether- but I can make an educated guess. I have NO idea what sentence you think I commented unfairly on, nor do I know what you're disagreeing with me about. You're agreeing that you'd feel something -pity- but I'm not certain why you question my ability to feel emotion.

[Jane]

Having thought he was innocent, I felt sorry for him, now I think he's guilty and having conversed with him a little, I can't say I dislike him - I just hate what he did and think he's where he should be and where he should stay.

Caroline, that's absolutely appropriate. If you found (innocent) Jeremy was likeable. I can't think why that changes because he's guilty.