Jeremy Bamber posts bizarre apology for 'failing to clear his name'

[Steve_uk]

She didn't tell Pam she hated Julie.  She didn't tell Pam she was opposed to Jeremy marrying Julie after learning of the engagement.  No one else has come forward saying she told such to them either.  Thus there is nothing to contradict Jeremy's claim that June was happy about the engagement.

The people saying June hated Julie are the ones making assumptions without any evidence.

   

From what I recall the point was that the idea of Jeremy and Julie getting married came from June or Nevill and this put Jeremy off the idea of acquiescing to their wishes. But isn't all this hearsay anyway? When  Brett proposed a toast to the happy couple in August after the murders Jeremy made it plain that marriage was not on the agenda.

[lookout]

Only because June was against them being together,alone and immoral at Goldhanger,would the question of marriage ever arise--------------so the neighbours wouldn't talk.

[scipio_usmc]

From what I recall the point was that the idea of Jeremy and Julie getting married came from June or Nevill and this put Jeremy off the idea of acquiescing to their wishes. But isn't all this hearsay anyway? When  Brett proposed a toast to the happy couple in August after the murders Jeremy made it plain that marriage was not on the agenda.

The engagement was broken off well before the murders. June and Nevill were happy about the engagement and began taking over the planning as if it was their idea.  Because of his mental issues he decided to spite them by breaking it off.  Out of spite he enjoyed doing things that pissed them off. 

[Steve_uk]

The engagement was broken off well before the murders. June and Nevill were happy about the engagement and began taking over the planning as if it was their idea.  Because of his mental issues he decided to spite them by breaking it off.  Out of spite he enjoyed doing things that pissed them off.

I don't know where you've dredged this up from..

[David1819]

The article is littered with inaccuracies but this apology may be a halfway house to finally admitting his culpability.

Steve if he is guilty he is not going to admit it. He has nothing to gain from admitting guilt. Unless he is offered something huge in exchange for a detailed confession.


after 30 years and relentless attempts to clear his name he is not going to throw that all away with one sentence. I can image in 30 years time when Jeremy is nearly dead he will arrange his tombstone to say

            Here lies Jeremy Neville Bamber

1961-1986 + 20,000 days of wrongful imprisonment. 

            “The evidence indicates that Sheila was responsible”

[Jane]

I don't know where you've dredged this up from..

Steve, I have to confess this is totally new to me. My understanding is that he asked her to marry him. She said yes. It was going to be by special licence in a register office after Christmas. All decided. He went to tell his parents about their engagement and whatever they said, he came back and broke it off. Shortest engagement in history, by the sound of it.

[Steve_uk]

Steve if he is guilty he is not going to admit it. He has nothing to gain from admitting guilt. Unless he is offered something huge in exchange for a detailed confession.


after 30 years and relentless attempts to clear his name he is not going to throw that all away with one sentence. I can image in 30 years time when Jeremy is nearly dead he will arrange his tombstone to say

            Here lies Jeremy Neville Bamber

1961-1986 + 20,000 days of wrongful imprisonment. 

            “The evidence indicates that Sheila was responsible”

He could apologize to Colin and salve his conscience,but if he is a psychopath I suppose he hasn't got one.

[David1819]

He could apologize to Colin and salve his conscience,but if he is a psychopath I suppose he hasn't got one.

I could not think of a more awkward situation,



how could Colin possibility accept an apology?

[Steve_uk]

I could not think of a more awkward situation,



how could Colin possibility accept an apology?

Colin refers to some rather nasty letters sent by Jeremy from prison in the early days of his incarceration in response to some queries which Colin held as to the murders. Jeremy replied that he didn't have all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle,or words to that effect. In further letters he accused Colin of profiting from the twins' deaths through the writing of the book. I'm afraid I find Jeremy's behaviour on all accounts regarding Colin despicable.

[maggie]

Colin refers to some rather nasty letters sent by Jeremy from prison in the early days of his incarceration in response to some queries which Colin held as to the murders. Jeremy replied that he didn't have all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle,or words to that effect. In further letters he accused Colin of profiting from the twins' deaths through the writing of the book. I'm afraid I find Jeremy's behaviour on all accounts regarding Colin despicable.

I agree if he is guilty but if innocent he must have been horrendously angry himself.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I have to confess this is totally new to me. My understanding is that he asked her to marry him. She said yes. It was going to be by special licence in a register office after Christmas. All decided. He went to tell his parents about their engagement and whatever they said, he came back and broke it off. Shortest engagement in history, by the sound of it.

Your account is nearer Scipio's. I took it that he left Julie dangling and maybe she thought that with his parents out of the way he would come round to marrying her,or is that rather cynical of me to think suchlike?

[scipio_usmc]

Your account is nearer Scipio's. I took it that he left Julie dangling and maybe she thought that with his parents out of the way he would come round to marrying her,or is that rather cynical of me to think suchlike?

When he broke the engagement off he told Julie he was breaking it off to spite his parents.  After they died she could indeed have thought he would at some point resume the engagement since they were no longer around to spite.  That could be one of the reasons she protected him- she anticipated him resuming their engagement and the failure to do so removed a reason she would have had for protecting him.  If he had resumed their engagement would she have broken up with him and ended up ratting him out? No one knows the answer but it is certainly possible she would not have.  I personally don't think she would have. 

[Steve_uk]

When he broke the engagement off he told Julie he was breaking it off to spite his parents.  After they died she could indeed have thought he would at some point resume the engagement since they were no longer around to spite.  That could be one of the reasons she protected him- she anticipated him resuming their engagement and the failure to do so removed a reason she would have had for protecting him.  If he had resumed their engagement would she have broken up with him and ended up ratting him out? No one knows the answer but it is certainly possible she would not have.  I personally don't think she would have.

The problem here of course is that it puts Julie in a poor light if she is hedging her bets as to the murder of Nevill and June,whom it appears from her witness statement she did very little to endorse,in contradistinction to the twins and Sheila. There's also Jeremy statement that his relationship with Julie had been shaky for some time and though there's not necessarily any contradiction here it does seem as if Jeremy was more serious about the murders than maybe Julie let on to others post event.

[scipio_usmc]

The problem here of course is that it puts Julie in a poor light if she is hedging her bets as to the murder of Nevill and June,whom it appears from her witness statement she did very little to endorse,in contradistinction to the twins and Sheila. There's also Jeremy statement that his relationship with Julie had been shaky for some time and though there's not necessarily any contradiction here it does seem as if Jeremy was more serious about the murders than maybe Julie let on to others post event.

Problem for who?

Any of the following is possible:

1) Julie thought Jeremy was going to kill them and figured after he did so then he would marry her so she failed to discourage him.

2) Julie didn't expect Jeremy would really kill them but after he did so she expected he would marry her and thus stayed with him for a while but after a few weeks went by it was clear he wasn't going to renew their engagement the guilt was too much so she decided to cut bait

3) Julie didn't expect Jeremy would really kill them but after he did so she stuck by him because she loved him but after a few weeks went by she felt guilty and he was acting like a jerk to Colin and others and she couldn't take it anymore so she decided to cut bait.

4) Julie thought Jeremy was going to kill them and figured after he did so then he would marry her so she encouraged him to do it.

The only problem is 4 and that is a problem for Julie because it makes her a co-conspirator.  It's only  a problem though if Jeremy confesses and rats her out.  So if 4 were true she actually would have a motive in keeping him from getting blamed so he didn't say anything against her.

[Jane]

Perhaps there is only a fine line between passive encouragement and inactive discouragement.