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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #570 on: August 30, 2015, 01:24:PM »
Everyone here is there own person but refusing to accept anything that puts Jeremy in a bad light and accepting everything that supports him - is blinkered and statements like 'I am never wrong' won't wash with anyine - even those who don't comment on it.


I agree, Caroline. "I am never wrong" ergo "Jeremy is innocent" scream of refusal/fear of looking at alternatives. It speaks of fear of losing face having dug in for so long. It speaks of a refusal to accept the possibility of having got it wrong....................and in case Lookout should think I'm just having a go at her, those particular rules apply to anyone with with such an intransient mind set, WHATEVER the reason for it.

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #571 on: August 30, 2015, 01:40:PM »

I agree, Caroline. "I am never wrong" ergo "Jeremy is innocent" scream of refusal/fear of looking at alternatives. It speaks of fear of losing face having dug in for so long. It speaks of a refusal to accept the possibility of having got it wrong....................and in case Lookout should think I'm just having a go at her, those particular rules apply to anyone with with such an intransient mind set, WHATEVER the reason for it.






You don't know me. I fear nothing and nobody. As for " fear of refusal to accept that Jeremy is anything but innocent ",is a step too far a thought in your mind. Laughable in fact. You're so wrong. I'm not a person who suggests such inane forecasts on a whim or at the drop of a hat.
I've studied this case at length and remember it vividly when it happened when I was the age then as you are now.
There's nothing wrong with me thinking like I do,the same as there's nothing wrong in your thoughts,but aren't we each entitled to our views without the comments I receive ?

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #572 on: August 30, 2015, 01:46:PM »





You don't know me. I fear nothing and nobody. As for " fear of refusal to accept that Jeremy is anything but innocent ",is a step too far a thought in your mind. Laughable in fact. You're so wrong. I'm not a person who suggests such inane forecasts on a whim or at the drop of a hat.
I've studied this case at length and remember it vividly when it happened when I was the age then as you are now.
There's nothing wrong with me thinking like I do,the same as there's nothing wrong in your thoughts,but aren't we each entitled to our views without the comments I receive ?

Lookout you must engage with April via PM prior to you're stance change. She can assist you as changed stance herself recently.

One piece of forensic evidence can result in a guilty verdict in any case. But there are over 30 pieces in this case. And only one alive suspect who knew about the massacre and had a motive, opportunity and no alibi.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #573 on: August 30, 2015, 01:56:PM »





You don't know me. I fear nothing and nobody. As for " fear of refusal to accept that Jeremy is anything but innocent ",is a step too far a thought in your mind. Laughable in fact. You're so wrong. I'm not a person who suggests such inane forecasts on a whim or at the drop of a hat.
I've studied this case at length and remember it vividly when it happened when I was the age then as you are now.
There's nothing wrong with me thinking like I do,the same as there's nothing wrong in your thoughts,but aren't we each entitled to our views without the comments I receive ?

To make such an overwhelming statement, you must have an unassailable sense of supremacy and rightness. You may say, now, that you have studied the case but you have also said that when it first happened, it came to you -like the revelation on the road to Damascus (my words)- that Jeremy was innocent and you've never changed your mind. If you've studied the case from that standpoint, it doesn't surprise me.

As I told Adam, it's not for me to persuade people to change their minds but it seems to me that some of the innocent persuasion may be having trouble holding their belief. Only today, having been told by Mike that the police shot Sheila as they walked through the door, you suggest that they could have accomplished the first upward shot as she was going upstairs. We, of the guilty persuasion can't be 100% certain what was the scenario, those of you on the other side seem to know less than we do. All you can say is that Jeremy is innocent whilst STILL seeking reasons to blame someone else.

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #574 on: August 30, 2015, 02:01:PM »
 I'd stick pins in my eyes first.
 What's your game anyway ? Apart from the fact that you're being very juvenile about an horrendous tragedy,almost distastefully as a betting arena.

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #575 on: August 30, 2015, 02:06:PM »
I'd stick pins in my eyes first.
 What's your game anyway ? Apart from the fact that you're being very juvenile about an horrendous tragedy,almost distastefully as a betting arena.

Lookout you can't support someone for no reason.

The evidence shows Bamber is guilty.

You are entitled to say he is guilty but should be released by now. Or that the trial was unfair. But must supply reasons why, with supporting documentation.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #576 on: August 30, 2015, 02:21:PM »





You don't know me. I fear nothing and nobody. As for " fear of refusal to accept that Jeremy is anything but innocent ",is a step too far a thought in your mind. Laughable in fact. You're so wrong. I'm not a person who suggests such inane forecasts on a whim or at the drop of a hat.
I've studied this case at length and remember it vividly when it happened when I was the age then as you are now.
There's nothing wrong with me thinking like I do,the same as there's nothing wrong in your thoughts,but aren't we each entitled to our views without the comments I receive ?


By the way, Lookout. How very remiss of me. I forgot to say "THANK-YOU" for the compliment but I can tell you with complete confidence that had you studied this case from the age I am now, those daisies you'd be pushing up would be winning prizes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #577 on: August 30, 2015, 02:48:PM »

By the way, Lookout. How very remiss of me. I forgot to say "THANK-YOU" for the compliment but I can tell you with complete confidence that had you studied this case from the age I am now, those daisies you'd be pushing up would be winning prizes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D






Koff-----------I was being polite. ;D ;D ;D ;D Erring on the side of caution really.

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« Reply #578 on: August 30, 2015, 02:55:PM »





Koff-----------I was being polite. ;D ;D ;D ;D Erring on the side of caution really.

Cor!! That's a new one for you ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Does Venezis Written Statement Say That ........
« Reply #579 on: August 30, 2015, 03:16:PM »
Cor!! That's a new one for you ;D ;D ;D ;D






Yes,you must savour it as it doesn't crop up very often. ;D ;D ;D ;D