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Offline David1819

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2015, 03:17:PM »
The whole tale might come out in the next few years as Jeremy reaches exhaustion

What do you mean by that?

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2015, 03:29:PM »
She could be far more roped in. She could have stayed the Tuesday night at Bourtree Cottage and backed up the call from Nevill. Jeremy could have told us she was a co-conspirator to drug Nevill with her pills. Jeremy could have told Police the idea to kill them all was hers.

Just supposition of course..

Well she was in New Cross when the massacre happened.

She may have encouraged him. But that is doubtful.

If Jeremy admits guilt he can implicate Julie. But that would only be of encouragement. Something I doubt she would get prosecuted for. She will deny it anyway.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2015, 03:43:PM »
What do you mean by that?
Well Jeremy is not going to be released;I think this is evident by now. His lawyers may huff and puff and procure him the key to his prison cell but he is stuck inside for the rest of his natural life watching his fellow inmates work the market garden at Full Sutton or the parterre from his new dwelling in Wakefield. He might one day spill the beans on his evil scheme and I do believe it was his scheme engendered through him blaming June for the loss of Suzette. Once he does begin to talk we might get more detail furnished as to exactly what Julie did say each time he sounded her out for murder.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2015, 04:00:PM »
The whole tale might come out in the next few years as Jeremy reaches exhaustion,but he has thus far been unable to rope Julie in apart from saying "Julie is telling lots of lies". As for Jordan Cunliffe he was spotted by an eyewitness kicking the victim.






I'd understood that the lad was sitting in a car the time that poor man was kicked to death. I didn't know he'd actually been part of it.

As for Julie,I'd have thought she'd have defended herself being called a liar as she had enough to say at the trial.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2015, 04:48:PM »
and I do believe it was his scheme engendered through him blaming June for the loss of Suzette..

You've lost me on that one :( please elaborate

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2015, 04:53:PM »
Well Jeremy is not going to be released;I think this is evident by now. His lawyers may huff and puff and procure him the key to his prison cell but he is stuck inside for the rest of his natural life watching his fellow inmates work the market garden at Full Sutton or the parterre from his new dwelling in Wakefield. He might one day spill the beans on his evil scheme and I do believe it was his scheme engendered through him blaming June for the loss of Suzette. Once he does begin to talk we might get more detail furnished as to exactly what Julie did say each time he sounded her out for murder.

He obviously didn't trust Julie enough to have her stay over on the night. To back up his story to the police they had been at home all night.

He probably suspected she would crack straight away under police questioning.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 04:58:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2015, 05:04:PM »
He obviously didn't trust Julie enough to have her stay over on the night. To back up his story to the police they had been at home all night.

He probably suspected she would crack straight away under police questioning.

She did not normally stay over. How suspicious if she decided to spend one night there on the same exact night of the murders.  The police would say he had her stay to provide a false alibi.  It would be harmful instead of helpful.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2015, 05:09:PM »
She did not normally stay over. How suspicious if she decided to spend one night there on the same exact night of the murders.  The police would say he had her stay to provide a false alibi.  It would be harmful instead of helpful.

I thought she had previously lived there. And went home the night before the massacre after coming over.

So she always went from Lewisham to Essex. And back again on the same day. That's very generous of Jeremy and a lot of travelling for Julie. But at least they could have lunch together.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 05:13:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2015, 08:23:PM »
You've lost me on that one :( please elaborate
June thought Suzette unsuitable and it's alleged by CAL that she threatened to cut him out of her will if the relationship continued.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2015, 08:33:PM »
June thought Suzette unsuitable and it's alleged by CAL that she threatened to cut him out of her will if the relationship continued.

Didn't June also disapprove of his relationship with Julie. She even offered to buy her a house !

It's all looking like things were slipping away from Jeremy. And he knew it.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2015, 08:40:PM »
Didn't June also disapprove of his relationship with Julie. She even offered to buy her a house !

It's all looking like things were slipping away from Jeremy. And he knew it.
Julie was preferable to Suzette in that at least she was single and career minded. I think June and Nevill discussed the situation and Julie was by Christmas 1984 welcome at the Farm. But in retrospect I don't think Jeremy had got over Suzette and the murder plot began to germinate,Jeremy using Julie as someone to sound out.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2015, 09:16:PM »
What do you mean by that?

He obviously ponders Jeremy may confess.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2015, 09:18:PM »
Well Jeremy is not going to be released;I think this is evident by now. His lawyers may huff and puff and procure him the key to his prison cell but he is stuck inside for the rest of his natural life watching his fellow inmates work the market garden at Full Sutton or the parterre from his new dwelling in Wakefield. He might one day spill the beans on his evil scheme and I do believe it was his scheme engendered through him blaming June for the loss of Suzette. Once he does begin to talk we might get more detail furnished as to exactly what Julie did say each time he sounded her out for murder.

I bet Jeremy's memory is foggy as to what he even told Julie at this point. He probably doesn't even recall every detail of the murders anymore.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2015, 09:23:PM »
Didn't June also disapprove of his relationship with Julie. She even offered to buy her a house !

It's all looking like things were slipping away from Jeremy. And he knew it.

They wanted to give her a place to live so he would stop living in sin with Julie.

They stopped living together anyway.

They got engaged and June was glad because then they would not be engaging in sin together.

Because his family liked the idea he broke the engagement to spite them.

He clearly wanted to do things that displeased them as opposed to doing things to please them. That demonstrates a problem he had with them. 

He expressed to Colin he didn't like how they were controlling his life he had big mental issues with them.





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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2015, 10:34:AM »
It certainly wasn't Jeremy who had the " mental issues  !"