Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?

[Adam]

If Julie wanted to be the lady of the manor, you would think she would keep her trap shut. I'm sure Jeremy would have advised her to do this.

Telling one person could be fatal, as that person could go straight to the police. However in between Jeremy whisking her around Europe, Julie had the time and the desire to tell not one, but five people what she knew.

This refutes the suggestion that she was amazingly brave and stupid and charged to the police in a rage, because Bamber had apparently jilted her. Although Bamber asking another woman out in front of her, didn't help him.

She had obviously been in turmoil and thinking about what to do for several days or weeks. Bamber had put the frighteners on her and told her how safe he was and that she wouldn't be believed.

So Julie spoke to Liz Rimmington, Andy Bishop, Karen Bishop, Malcolm Walters and Susan Battersby. These people encouraged her to go to the police. Which she did do.

Telling five people really backed her into a corner. As she would anticipate at least one of these people would approach the police and tell them what Julie knew. Perhaps without realising it,  this is what Julie wanted, moral support and being in a situation where she had just one option. Which to her was morally the right option.

If Julie and Bamber were still together when she first started telling people, why did she talk ?  Telling people what she knew while her and Bamber were still an item, contradicts the alleged reason she went to the police.

Why do other people believe she told five people before going to the police ?

[Adam]

The chain of events with Julie all seemed quite normal -

Jeremy requested a police car pick her up at around 5am.

In a daze and with Jeremy hovering about, she gives a short statement.

He starts whisking her around the country and to Amsterdam. Impressing her with expensive hotels and meals.

Julie finally catches her breath. Lets what happened sink in and starts to contemplate what to do. Jeremy telling her he is 'watertight' and 'there is nothing she can do'.

Things get more strained between Jeremy and Julie. Especially with Brett joining in with the jolly ups. However Julie is persuaded to continue joining him.

Julie starts telling other people what she knows. To get feedback on what she should do. She is advised to go to the police.

The massacre has sped up the already 'coming to a close' relationship. Shortly after Julie hears Jeremy ask another woman out in front of him, she approaches the police.

[Adam]

If she really wanted to be the 'lady of the manor' as claimed, she would have -

Not told anyone.

Not kept confronting Jeremy about it.

At first denied everything if the police approached her.


I have no doubt she would have broken quickly if the police had approached and pressurised her. People break under police questioning all the time. She was a young woman caught up in something unbelievable. Not a super tough terrorist.

[Adam]

Perhaps some of the guilters who used to be supporters should make an apology to Julie.

I am sure they would be the first to admit they previously bad mouthed her a lot. Just as Jan did yesterday, saying her WS is a lie. April previously criticising her clothes she wore at trial.

It's clear her WS and testimony is true, otherwise Bamber would be innocent. It's also clear she didn't want to be the 'lady of the Manor' as some posters have put it.

Her only crime was delaying her approach, and there are several reasons for this.

[Adam]

It seems Julie is not going to get an apology from posters on here. Which is disappointing.

Certainly Jeremy is not going to apologise, after putting a young woman into an almost impossible situation. Only last year an 8 minute Youtube video was created on her.

[lookout]

 " Everything's going well " said Jeremy to Julie. So why didn't she herself dial 999 if she knew what was going on, to save a catastrophe ?
 Then in the next breath," Something's wrong ?", Jeremy had said.
 The two don't quite gel do they ??



 

[Jane]

" Everything's going well " said Jeremy to Julie. So why didn't she herself dial 999 if she knew what was going on, to save a catastrophe ?
 Then in the next breath," Something's wrong ?", Jeremy had said.
 The two don't quite gel do they ??

"Everything is going well" easily translates to "Everything is working out according to plan" meaning that "Something's wrong" is the outcome of that plan. Seemples :D

[lookout]

"Everything is going well" easily translates to "Everything is working out according to plan" meaning that "Something's wrong" is the outcome of that plan. Seemples :D

Then she told him to go to bed ?? So she didn't care that a whole family were about to get wiped out ?

[Jane]

Then she told him to go to bed ?? So she didn't care that a whole family were about to get wiped out ?

OR she wanted to dissociate herself from what she suspected he'd gone through with? To give herself some thinking space?

[lookout]

OR she wanted to dissociate herself from what she suspected he'd gone through with? To give herself some thinking space?

Thinking space ? She KNEW that two families were going to die.What sort of a person,in love or not,allows something like that to happen ? What did JM's mother think,I wonder ?

[lookout]

Like it or not,JM WAS an accessory !!
That young Jordan lad is in prison as an accessory and he DIDN'T know that Gary Newlove was going to be murdered,but Julie Mugford  DID know of the Bambers murders,so where's the justice ?

[Steve_uk]

Like it or not,JM WAS an accessory !!
That young Jordan lad is in prison as an accessory and he DIDN'T know that Gary Newlove was going to be murdered,but Julie Mugford  DID know of the Bambers murders,so where's the justice ?

The whole tale might come out in the next few years as Jeremy reaches exhaustion,but he has thus far been unable to rope Julie in apart from saying "Julie is telling lots of lies". As for Jordan Cunliffe he was spotted by an eyewitness kicking the victim.

[Adam]

" Everything's going well " said Jeremy to Julie. So why didn't she herself dial 999 if she knew what was going on, to save a catastrophe ?
 Then in the next breath," Something's wrong ?", Jeremy had said.
 The two don't quite gel do they ??

She could not dial out with the phone at her place.

Lewisham was not the sort of place to be walking around in at 3am.

Anyway she was half asleep and didn't believe Jeremy would do anything.

[Adam]

The whole tale might come out in the next few years as Jeremy reaches exhaustion,but he has thus far been unable to rope Julie in apart from saying "Julie is telling lots of lies". As for Jordan Cunliffe he was spotted by an eyewitness kicking the victim.

How could she be any more roped in. Apart from being there with him ?

She knew of his hatred, plans, aborted plans and confession.

[Steve_uk]

How could she be any more roped in. Apart from being there with him ?

She knew of his hatred, plans, aborted plans and confession.

She could be far more roped in. She could have stayed the Tuesday night at Bourtree Cottage and backed up the call from Nevill. Jeremy could have told us she was a co-conspirator to drug Nevill with her pills. Jeremy could have told Police the idea to kill them all was hers.

Just supposition of course..