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Re: The Murders at White House Farm - By Carol Ann Lee (A Taster!)
« Reply #360 on: July 18, 2015, 10:05:AM »
It shouldn't be hard to fire an accurate head shot into sleeping people. June and the twins were shot in the heads with their heads on the pillow. June didn't die but was disabled.

Neville woke up and Sheila had to be out of bed before being shot.

Sheila either woke up and went into the main bedroom. Or was woken and lead a few yards while she was half asleep. If awake, people have said she either froze or fainted upon seeing a gun man.
'people have said' means nothing ..... just guesses

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« Reply #361 on: July 18, 2015, 10:06:AM »
Yes, they were not hollow point or shot gun bullets.  The first round of shots may have killed everyone, after all Neville and June did get head shots.  But  the deaths would not be instant.

Bamber seeing Neville fight back and June get out bed, panicked and re loaded.

Er?  ???

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« Reply #362 on: July 18, 2015, 10:07:AM »
It was really hard to load the magazine up fully, the last 3 bullets was hard to push in the jury was shown this at the trial.  He thought one magazine would be enough.
Thesuggestion  in the letter is that he loaded and Sheila pulled the trigger  :-\

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« Reply #363 on: July 18, 2015, 10:10:AM »
Er?  ???

I believe they are the bullets Mark Chapman used on John Lennon. They open up upon impact causing more damage. Apparently they can knock down an elephant.
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« Reply #364 on: July 18, 2015, 10:13:AM »
Although it can't actually be that difficult, JB loaded the full magazine in a rush to go rabbit hunting.


But presumably he'd reloaded a gun/firearm/rifle/weapon on more occasions than had Sheila.

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« Reply #365 on: July 18, 2015, 10:14:AM »
Thesuggestion  in the letter is that he loaded and Sheila pulled the trigger  :-\

Pulled the trigger on herself ?

Why didn't Bamber just shoot her himself ? He had shot everyone else.
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« Reply #366 on: July 18, 2015, 10:15:AM »
I believe they are the bullets Mark Chapman used on John Lennon. They open up upon impact causing more damage. Apparently they can knock down an elephant.

Eley hollow point .22 rounds were used to murder 5 people at Whitehouse Farm in 1985.

Yes they are designed to expand on impact, but usually in a rat or rabbit, not six year old children.

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« Reply #367 on: July 18, 2015, 10:17:AM »

But presumably he'd reloaded a gun/firearm/rifle/weapon on more occasions than had Sheila.

Presumably so.

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« Reply #368 on: July 18, 2015, 10:19:AM »
Eley hollow point .22 rounds were used to murder 5 people at Whitehouse Farm in 1985.

Yes they are designed to expand on impact, but usually in a rat or rabbit, not six year old children.

Really ? so if they expanded slowly upon impact this would help explain Neville and June not dying straight away. And Jeremy's panic re load.
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« Reply #369 on: July 18, 2015, 10:20:AM »
Really ? so if they expanded slowly upon impact this would help explain Neville and June not dying straight away. And Jeremy's panic re load.

Are you new to the case?  ??? Lol  :D

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« Reply #370 on: July 18, 2015, 10:22:AM »
Are you new to the case?  ??? Lol  :D

I'm not but didn't know the bullets used expanded on impact. Obviously they were not as powerful as Mark Chapman's bullets as his was a gun designed for humans.
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« Reply #371 on: July 18, 2015, 10:28:AM »
I'm not but didn't know the bullets used expanded on impact. Obviously they were not as powerful as Mark Chapman's bullets as his was a gun designed for humans.

Maybe that's why so many bullets were needed.  :-\

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« Reply #372 on: July 18, 2015, 10:31:AM »
Although it can't actually be that difficult, JB loaded the full magazine in a rush to go rabbit hunting.
For a man? Who was used to loading them, not for a novice?

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« Reply #373 on: July 18, 2015, 10:33:AM »
Obviously, Adam but no one is suggesting that, we are discussing the possibility that Sheila may have been his accomplice.
The whole thing is horrific, anyway.

Sheila as his accomplice makes no sense.

He didn't need her help to commit the massacre and stage the scene.

If he had asked for her help, to kill her family and herself !, she would have declined. It would have also given her advance warning and she may have told Neville or June.
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« Reply #374 on: July 18, 2015, 10:33:AM »
I'm not but didn't know the bullets used expanded on impact. Obviously they were not as powerful as Mark Chapman's bullets as his was a gun designed for humans.