The Murders at White House Farm - By Carol Ann Lee (A Taster!)

[maggie]

He was never going to find an accomplice to complete the massacre with him.

He didn't mix in hardcore criminal circles and even those criminals would think twice. He didn't have the money to pay anyone up front. An accomplice would be expensive, money he would rather keep for himself.

If he investigated getting an accomplice and sounded people out, there was a chance people would tell the police of this after the massacre.

Obviously, Adam but no one is suggesting that, we are discussing the possibility that Sheila may have been his accomplice.
The whole thing is horrific, anyway.

[guest7363]

Do you think the killer underestimated the number or bullets required?

He prob thought one loaded magazine would do it?

[Adam]

Do you think the killer underestimated the number or bullets required?

I can't believe this. He had been planning the massacre and knew a bit about guns.

Ideally he would be hoping to kill everyone with the 10/11 bullets. As suspicious people may ask if Sheila could chamber and re load.

Maybe one shot head each into Sheila and the twins, the rest into Neville and June.  However Neville got downstairs after only two upstairs head shots.

After Neville's beating, more head shots were needed. Meaning a re load was needed as he had already fired bullets into June and two bullets into Neville's torso.   Sheila, Nicolas and Daniel had still to be shot.

Once he had chambered and re loaded once, the damage was done. He might as well chamber and re load twice and fire lots more bullets into people to make it look 'crazy'.

[Adam]

Obviously, Adam but no one is suggesting that, we are discussing the possibility that Sheila may have been his accomplice.
The whole thing is horrific, anyway.

Sheila his accomplice ?

Jeremy really did have a way with women.

[Adam]

I agree, Alias used that argument as one of her reasons to question JBs guilt, I remember her arguing from that angle long before you joined the forum and agreeing with it but others have also thought it. Susan has just posted that she has always believed this scenario.  In theory an accurate headshot would of course disable everyone but in practice it would not be easy to achieve, anyway Sheila wasn't shot in the head.. Also there is the question .... where was Sheila when her brother was rampaging around shooting everyone...... sleeping you will say and that is a possibility but there's no proof of that. 
I am not stating as FACT something unproven, am just saying it maybe ' has a ring of truth about it' ...... now where have I heard that expression before?? 

It shouldn't be hard to fire an accurate head shot into sleeping people. June and the twins were shot in the heads with their heads on the pillow. June didn't die but was disabled.

Neville woke up and Sheila had to be out of bed before being shot.

Sheila either woke up and went into the main bedroom. Or was woken and lead a few yards while she was half asleep. If awake, people have said she either froze or fainted upon seeing a gun man.

[guest2181]

He prob thought one loaded magazine would do it?

I agree.

[Adam]

There is a possibility he was not concerned about re loading.

He just wanted to complete the job. The issue of Sheila chambering and reloading would never be brought up as he believed he would be 'watertight' and it was an 'open and shut' case.  If it was brought up he could claim Sheila was competent with guns.

Lots of bullets fired does make the massacre look more 'crazy' and deranged.

[lookout]

For a crack shooter,it wouldn't have been necessary to have re-loaded.

[guest7363]

There is a possibility he was not concerned about re loading.

He just wanted to complete the job. The issue of Sheila chambering and reloading would never be brought up as he believed he would be 'watertight' and it was an 'open and shut' case.  If it was brought up he could claim Sheila was competent with guns.

Lots of bullets fired does make the massacre look more 'crazy' and deranged.

It was really hard to load the magazine up fully, the last 3 bullets was hard to push in the jury was shown this at the trial.  He thought one magazine would be enough.

[Adam]

Although he had been planning the massacre, he may not have realised that two chambers and reloads by Sheila would leave damaged finger nails and oil on her hands. So in other words not concerned about re loading.

[guest7363]

For a crack shooter,it wouldn't have been necessary to have re-loaded.

They are not first choice defensive weapons because they kill too slow to stop a determined aggressor that's why he needed more bullets, he did not realise this?

[guest2181]

It was really hard to load the magazine up fully, the last 3 bullets was hard to push in the jury was shown this at the trial.  He thought one magazine would be enough.

Of course it's only a minimum of two reloads. Could be more, the final three 'tricky' bullets of the magazine may never have been loaded?

[guest2181]

Of course it's only a minimum of two reloads. Could be more, the final three 'tricky' bullets of the magazine may never have been loaded?

Although it can't actually be that difficult, JB loaded the full magazine in a rush to go rabbit hunting.

[Adam]

They are not first choice defensive weapons because they kill too slow to stop a determined aggressor that's why he needed more bullets, he did not realise this?

Yes, they were not hollow point or shot gun bullets.  The first round of shots may have killed everyone, after all Neville and June did get head shots.  But  the deaths would not be instant.

Bamber seeing Neville fight back and June get out bed, panicked and re loaded.

[maggie]

Sheila his accomplice ?

Jeremy really did have a way with women.

How funny are you?  NOT!