Ending the SJ/1 nonsense once and for all

[scipio_usmc]

So what you're saying, is that although people were near enough to hear him say he'd found it, but because nobody was in the room, no one actually SAW him find it.

He went into the office closet while other people were in the kitchen and others still could have been in other rooms.  Besides David his sister, father, Cock and Barbara were in the house.  Ann and Robert heard him and went in.  They could not recall whether Cock and Barbara went in as well or were shown it in other rooms. Police didn't ask them about the precise circumstances of it being found till a month later so their memories were not as sharp.  Cock saw it and didn't care he agreed just give it and the other firearms related materials to police. Barbara wasn't asked to give a statement about such and didn't publicly discuss seeing it until after the trial. While I believe she did in fact see it I don't know if she coudl accurately be able to recall when and where she was when she saw it.  When people realize something is significant it stands out in mind where they were. None of them realized the significance of the find.  None of them knew that Sheila's fatal shot was a contact wound that would result in drawback and that the blood inside would be determined to be Sheila's blood resulting from drawback from that fatal wound.  If any of them knew the significance they would have insisted police come get it then and there from WHF.

[Caroline]

Hi Adam personally I don't see anything wrong with BS but think we need to have agreement on this. I understand your complaint but it's in everyday use now and is no more abusive than rubbish etc imo.

Hi Maggie when Adam stops posting BS, I'll stop calling it BS. Personally, I think that's pretty fair? 

[Caroline]

Thanks. I won't use that word to describe other peoples posts.

I would rather discuss the case.

Then get on with it!

[Caroline]

Some of the name calling that's been going on is far worse than using bs. Nobody seems to mention nothing about that though.

Exactly Marty and my reference to BS was Adam's CONSTANT goading - when he stops goading, I'll stop calling his posts 'Bog Standard' 

[scipio_usmc]

the relatives said NB would always tidy away the guns at night although not lock them away - but when you look at the house ( very untidy typical farmhouse ) it seems odd that the silencer was put away in a box - and yet the "blob"of blood did not get disturbed or smudged .

I think it was handled more when taken away from WHF by the family rather than when it was there.

The blob was inside the moderator. What would disturb the blood inside of it while it sat in the closet?
The face of the moderator had a little blood on the outside. which survived because what would disturb it in the closet?

Jeremy put it inside of a box in order to hide it. In case police opened the closet he didn't want it sitting right there at the opening.  He put the scope away in a box and the moderator to make it appear someone simply removed them after use in support of his story they would be put way and not kept on the gun which he initially claimed could not be stored with these accessories attached.

 

[Caroline]

I have reported you to the moderators. Similar to Jan you must stop getting over excited.

You know there is nothing to get hold of regarding the relatives finding the silencer. But you are once again just trying to back up you're unproven claim about the silencer not being used.

You said Stan Jones and others arranged to contaminate the silencer. I created a thread on this showing it is complete nonsense. Now you are again focusing on the relatives. To try to justify you're former 'innocent' stance.

Just admit you supported Jeremy so passionately because he is famous and wrote you letters.

And please answer my question about why it is important who was 'actually' in the room when the silencer was found.

Just wondering - is TOSSER acceptable??   

[Caroline]

The blob was inside the moderator. What would disturb the blood inside of it while it sat in the closet?
The face of the moderator had a little blood on the outside. which survived because what would disturb it in the closet?

Jeremy put it inside of a box in order to hide it. In case police opened the closet he didn't want it sitting right there at the opening.  He put the scope away in a box and the moderator to make it appear someone simply removed them after use in support of his story they would be put way and not kept on the gun which he initially claimed could not be stored with these accessories attached.

 

Where does it state that the blob was on the 'outside'?

[Caroline]

He was in the room alone because everyone in the house was doing different things. After he found it he brought it to the attention of others and their reactions varied from not caring at all (Cock) to the family agreeing it and the other firearms items should be turned over to police but not thinking too much of it.  Ann said she thought maybe it was simply animal blood and didn't realize the significance of the moderator until the trial when she heard he experts discussing the significance.

The notion he found it and then decided on the spur to plant blood inside so took it apart and planted blood doesn't sound very plausible or that he subsequently snuck into the kitchen to scratch the mantle then returned to the office with it and pretend it was like that when he found it. People were nearby enough to hear him say he found it and to then go in the room to see what he was talking about so presumably some were in the kitchen at the time.

That's not what RWB stated.

[Stephanie]

Just wondering - is TOSSER acceptable??   

I'd say yes;

tosser
noun
1.
a person or thing that tosses something.
"a contest to find the best pancake-tosser"

[maggie]

Just wondering - is TOSSER acceptable??   

Haha!! We shall have to have a book of rules with all acceptable words listed such as ninny, silly pickle etc. That should work 

[susan]

Just wondering - is TOSSER acceptable??   

  think that would be OK

[maggie]

I'd say yes; http://

tosser
?t?s?/
noun
1.
a person or thing that tosses something.
"a contest to find the best pancake-tosser"

I have a hunch it's a bit more basic than that Steph 

[Stephanie]

I'd say yes;

tosser
noun
1.
a person or thing that tosses something.
"a contest to find the best pancake-tosser"

Could always use 'pancake' - we'd all know what you meant....

[maggie]

Where does it state that the blob was on the 'outside'?

Where does it state the blob was 'inside'?

[susan]

Haha!! We shall have to have a book of rules with all acceptable words listed such as ninny, silly pickle etc. That should work 

Maggie just looked in the book of rules and tosser is acceptable silly pickle is out and ninny so please refrain from using them stick to the rules